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1fife

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rules Q's-avg(right/left)
« on: August 31, 2004, 09:00:28 AM »
ok

we have a bowler who books 220+(right handed)

i league states no new bowler can be over 210 compposite-which he is

so last 2 years he bowls left handed in our league because he cant make the avg limit.

well he avg about 195-200 last year(its a very easy lefty house)

well-this year he comes first night of bowling and says he going to bowl right handed. Since he is a existing member of the league , he doesnt have to be under 210. He says this is only for new incoming bowlers. We tell him that he is a different bowler right and left handed and he is only existing left handed not right.
Well he says nothinbgin our rules state that. Our rules do state that anything that inst in out rules, we must go by abc rules.

well i could find anyhting on this issue

ANYONE
and what do you think?

 

htotheizzo3561

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Re: rules Q's-avg(right/left)
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2004, 05:11:53 PM »
ABC says that a bowler must be sanctioned for both right and left hand.  The best thing I can say is that your league and board of directors have to take a vote.

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Re: rules Q's-avg(right/left)
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2004, 05:13:41 PM »
As I understand ABC he exists as two different entities.  If his right-handed self doesn't conform to league rules he's out of luck.  There is no composite of both hands.
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Re: rules Q's-avg(right/left)
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2004, 05:16:38 PM »
We had this same thing in a league a couple of years ago.

Scum bag just like your guy comes in and tries to pull the same thing.
Same guy???  Anyway luckily league had a rule where things not covered by either national rules or already established rules could be decided by a special vote of captains!!  What a joke I was a captain for first time ever!

Many people talked very tipie toe around everyone's feelings.  Me being worried about being popular spoke up and said as a new member of the league and also a switcher from left to right that I had never seen such a blatant attempt at cheating in my life except for other blatant attempts at cheating and that he and the whole team should be ashamed of themselves that instead of deciding on this issue they should be just voted out of the league on general principles, they were all cheaters and would tend to want to cheat all year!

Very popularly received, right!

Anyway I made some new friends and he ended up staying in league and bowled left handed.

REgards,

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Re: rules Q's-avg(right/left)
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2004, 05:41:16 PM »
here's a question, if the same guy with a sanctioned lefty and righty average is considered "2 people", then how come he cant bowl with himself in a doubles tournament???  I had 2 established averages a couple seasons ago, one lefty, one righty, and i signed up to bowl our local tournament with myself, and they threw it out!!! doesn't seem fair to me!

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1fife

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Re: rules Q's-avg(right/left)
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2004, 05:53:07 PM »
he never bowled in the league right handed
was always over the cap

he still bowls right handed in another league(im in that league also-its a classic league-one of the better in the detroit area)

the point being

has anyone heard of a abc rule in the book on this-or had this happen in a legaue, that they took to abc?

yes i believ eits not right and i know the guy-since we bowled against each other in college.

when he came into thei league-i even said
"you know a couple years from know-you cant switch over and be a member of this league-he said he wouldnt. I even asked him about this comment and he said yes i remember, but, he wasnt having fun left handed(he 200).

I jsut believ ein principles and he is definitely breaking it in my mind, but

NEED BLACK AND WHITE

DukeHarding

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Re: rules Q's-avg(right/left)
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2004, 06:01:51 PM »
quote:
he never bowled in the league right handed
was always over the cap

he still bowls right handed in another league(im in that league also-its a classic league-one of the better in the detroit area)

the point being

has anyone heard of a abc rule in the book on this-or had this happen in a legaue, that they took to abc?

yes i believ eits not right and i know the guy-since we bowled against each other in college.

when he came into thei league-i even said
"you know a couple years from know-you cant switch over and be a member of this league-he said he wouldnt. I even asked him about this comment and he said yes i remember, but, he wasnt having fun left handed(he 200).

I jsut believ ein principles and he is definitely breaking it in my mind, but

NEED BLACK AND WHITE


His name isn't Arnie Goldman, is it?

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1fife

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Re: rules Q's-avg(right/left)
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2004, 06:13:51 PM »
no-not arnie

this is a good righty-that bowls a little left

i dont want to be a name dropper  

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Re: rules Q's-avg(right/left)
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2004, 07:15:38 PM »
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no-not arnie

this is a good righty-that bowls a little left

i dont want to be a name dropper  


Thought it might have been him. I bowled with him when he moved to Chicago in the 70s. He was very good. Righties called him "GOD" around Chicago. Not because of his ability. ;-)
I never had a problem with him, but we're both lefties.
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