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MelvinBrunsTrack

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I need some info on topweight
« on: November 07, 2006, 04:38:44 AM »
Can someone send me some info on topweight.

Thank you
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Re: I need some info on topweight
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2006, 11:59:04 AM »
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If you're not good enough to see the difference, that's OK. But don't try to tell others that there is no difference when we can see it. Even if it's minimal, like a 2-5%, I'll take the advantage everytime. =:^D




You kill me.  Outside of "I can see a difference," you have not one shred of proof to validate your claim.  Nothing.  Yet you insist you are right.  I am going to take a leap here and say that if the CATS system didn't detect any differences in skid, break point, entry angle, etc, etc between two balls with different static weights (that according to you should react drastically different), then there is likely no difference in reaction.  Do me a favor.. drill up two symmetrical core balls, same pin position, different cg positions.  Go to Reno during the tournament and throw both on the CATS systems and see for yourself..  that is of course unless the CATS system is baised against statics as well...
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Re: I need some info on topweight
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2006, 12:16:47 PM »
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BrunsNick, once again, YOU'RE WRONG..!!

You can see a difference in ball reaction when you place balance holes in it. The same hold true for differences in top weight/statics/ending CG whatever you want to call it.

Physics is physics. If the ending heavy spot of the ball is different, whether a balance hole is used or not, the ball will react differently..!! It may be minimal to your eyes or others eyes, or it may be enough that you can see the difference, but in either case, there WILL BE A DIFFERENCE.

If you're not good enough to see the difference, that's OK. But don't try to tell others that there is no difference when we can see it. Even if it's minimal, like a 2-5%, I'll take the advantage everytime. =:^D


yeah.. the difference youll see maybe 1-board or less.
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Re: I need some info on topweight
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2006, 03:18:05 PM »
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yeah.. the difference youll see maybe 1-board or less.
...and how much of a difference is there between leaving a 10 pin and not leaving one..? You guys kill me..!! =:^D
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Re: I need some info on topweight
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2006, 03:21:42 PM »
LOVE this topic and these threads ... I'm along for the read and the ride.
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Re: I need some info on topweight
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2006, 03:25:17 PM »
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yeah.. the difference youll see maybe 1-board or less.
...and how much of a difference is there between leaving a 10 pin and not leaving one..? You guys kill me..!! =:^D


I take that back, LESS than a board.
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Re: I need some info on topweight
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2006, 03:49:16 PM »
Are we talking about all static weights, or just top weight?

I know that I had a ball with a full ounce of side weight, and I could not get the ball to turn.  When I had that side weight reduced to a half ounce, the ball reacted much better.

Of course, that is only me, and I'm sure it had more to do with my inconsistencies with speed, tilt, etc.
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Re: I need some info on topweight
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2006, 03:50:10 PM »
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...and how much of a difference is there between leaving a 10 pin and not leaving one..? You guys kill me..!! =:^D


And you can accurately repeat shots (speed, lauch angle, rev rate, and target) to notice a difference of 1 board...

please...


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Re: I need some info on topweight
« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2006, 03:57:11 PM »
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Physics is physics. If the ending heavy spot of the ball is different, whether a balance hole is used or not, the ball will react differently..!! It may be minimal to your eyes or others eyes, or it may be enough that you can see the difference, but in either case, there WILL BE A DIFFERENCE.


That's why at so many tournaments, when I see other bowlers racing to make surface adjustments on their equipment, I just scratch the color-filling out of ball logos to change its weight distribution.  Other times, I may need to fill in some color to change the weight distribution in the opposite direction.

Regardless what side you take here, the difference - if any - is minimal.  How minimal of a difference does it need to be before it is discounted because of unreliable human delivery?
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