Quote from: milorafferty on November 03, 2016, 12:45:11 PM

Quote from: trash heap on November 03, 2016, 12:12:12 PM

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You already have a group of people who look at league bowling in a more negative light than in the past in the proprietors.  Bowling centers have been devoting more lanes and more time to recreational bowling and less to leagues bowling.  (My first experience was Rock 'n Bowl in the 80s)  This will inherently reduce league membership.  But that is USBC's fault somehow.

It is USBC's and Manufacturers fault. Simple Reason. Money. It is much cheaper to purchase sound equipment and lights than to have a high quality lane oil machine. League bowlers want to use their big hook monsters. When the lanes dry up and scores go down, the league bowler complains. Rock n' Bowl is pretty simple, play loud music. Nobody cares about lane conditions.

The ball companies are just producing the product their customers demand.

No doubt about it...and it comes with a price tag. If bowlers are willing to pay for it...so be it....but really, no matter how you look at it this sport has become too expensive.

Not stating we go back to the stone age, but you got admit this ball of month garbage is a bit over the top.

I agree with that, but have to admit that I'm part of the problem as well. I throw mostly Motiv and I buy every new ball when it comes out.

My older Motiv stuff works just fine, but something about a "shiny new toy" just makes my wallet leap out of my pocket.

Quote from: milorafferty on November 03, 2016, 12:45:11 PM

The ball companies are just producing the product their customers demand.

If that is true, what is the role of the marketing department?

Who's marketing department?

Quote from: ICDeadMoney on November 03, 2016, 04:23:15 PM

Quote from: milorafferty on November 03, 2016, 12:45:11 PM

The ball companies are just producing the product their customers demand.

If that is true, what is the role of the marketing department?

Who's marketing department?

The Ball company.

Quote from: ICDeadMoney on November 03, 2016, 05:42:40 PM

Quote from: milorafferty on November 03, 2016, 04:35:46 PM

Quote from: ICDeadMoney on November 03, 2016, 04:23:15 PM

Quote from: milorafferty on November 03, 2016, 12:45:11 PM

The ball companies are just producing the product their customers demand.

If that is true, what is the role of the marketing department?

Who's marketing department?

The Ball company.

Is it a legitimate question or are you just wanting to argue for the sake of arguing?

If it is a legitimate question, then may I suggest Google(https://www.google.com/). I'm not offering a Business 101 class today.

You don't want to answer it, because it conflicts with the first comment of yours that I quoted.

“A lot of times, people don’t know what they want until you show it to them.” - Steve Jobs

Thats marketing.

Necromancer,

I was hoping you would see my reply.

Everyone is missing the obvious...

Morpheus = Mighty Fish's son!

Carry on.....

Quote from: Jorge300 on November 14, 2016, 05:40:11 PM

Everyone is missing the obvious...

Morpheus = Mighty Fish's son!

Carry on.....

#usbcfanboy

 
I got my new USBC membership card in the mail today. It reminded me of all the opportunities that provides me to participate in great USBC tournaments. It reminds that even for Regional PBA tournaments, I'm required to be a USBC member in good standing, and the card seals the deal.
 
On the other hand, you have no card. With your self imposed exile, you can bowl nothing but local tournaments that in many cases are little more than glorified pot games. Your "protest" has no more impact than the teenagers marching in the streets due to the recent election. Symbolism without any chance of impact. Congratulations.

Quote from: Steven on November 15, 2016, 05:24:09 PM

Quote from: morpheus on November 14, 2016, 09:16:41 PM

Quote from: Jorge300 on November 14, 2016, 05:40:11 PM

Everyone is missing the obvious...

Morpheus = Mighty Fish's son!

Carry on.....

#usbcfanboy

 
I got my new USBC membership card in the mail today. It reminded me of all the opportunities that provides me to participate in great USBC tournaments. It reminds that even for Regional PBA tournaments, I'm required to be a USBC member in good standing, and the card seals the deal.
 
On the other hand, you have no card. With your self imposed exile, you can bowl nothing but local tournaments that in may cases are little more than glorified pot games. Your "protest" has no more impact than the teenagers marching in the streets due to the recent election. Symbolism without any chance of impact. Congratulations.

It's called having principles, but I'm really happy for the 1% of membership that finds value in the program. As for myself and approximately 8 million members that are no longer sanctioned, it does not serve our interests. It's actually kind of comical that you think this has a happy ending, but ignorance is bliss lol.

 
On the contrary -- there is no "happy ending" for the current state of your bowling experience. There is nothing to laugh about. The only ignorance is on your part for not understanding where you sit, and the absolute lack of impact your protest has, or will have.
 
The only thing you're hurting is yourself. That's the sad part of this whole conversation.