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How to generate super speed
« on: January 23, 2013, 09:03:22 PM »
I'm old school in my 50s bowling 35 plus years competitively. I've spent the last couple years generating increased rev rate and am about 400 . My next goal is increasing ball speed. But I can't seem to figure it out. I know about legs, backswing, running down the approach and sure those things give me about 1.5 mph over my typical through the pins speed of 15.5.
But what I want to know is how is everyone generating 18/19 and 20 ? It has to be using kinetic energy but I watch and watch and it looks so effortless ? Anyone know what I'missinf?
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Re: How to generate super speed
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2013, 09:31:54 AM »
There are certain attributes that cannot be learned, as they have as much to do with not only a persons physical build but it also relates to how our muscles elongate thru repetitive motion, i.e. as we grow, the sport or sports we participate in develops our muscles in certain ways. During a persons growing stages, if you decide to be a bowler, your muscles thru the act of delivering a bowling ball, will elongate along certain lines in your body as compared to the golf swing, which is more rotational. This is why as we get older, it becomes difficult to evolve into what younger athletes are able to do. There is much emphasis these days placed on core strength along with increasing range of motion, in certain areas thru yoga & stretching, but at a certain point, an athletes bodies is what it is...the reference teaching an old new tricks come to mind.
From watching the video it does appear your rev rate & speed match up fairly well. I'm not sure what professional instructors you're referencing (as I would fall into that category) but there are only certain variables that influence swing speed, a person's build is the primary. You're only going to create a certain amount of ball speed naturally, going beyond will tend to become muscle which tends to eliminate consistency & accuracy. Length of arc, foot speed and length of arm all go into the equation but we all have a certain rhythm and tempo that is a persons own identity.
Also in today's modern game, more emphasis is placed on having the proper piece of equipment, with the proper surface, in your hands ,at the proper time and also in the correct part of the lane...if you're not, you are sacrificing pin carry. Also the type of game you possess is what dictates the types of conditions you'll score on, in comparison to conditions you're not getting bird dogs on...there are certain conditions that it may just be using the wrong ball on, as well as too much ball speed can create the incorrect deflection at the pins decreasing pin carry.
I applaud you're desire to improve, but as stated previously and as it is can be proven, at a certain point in aging, our physical attributes are what they are & unfortunately cannot be changed. There are reasons why certain players dominate on certain conditions...they possess something no one else does and as much as it can physical much of the time it's mental.
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Re: How to generate super speed
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2013, 12:38:40 PM »
After watching the vids and seeing you throw the ball I'm not really sure what your going for other then I assume to maybe throw the ball like Tommy Jones?

I don't blame anyone for wanting to get better or throw the ball differently, but I'm not sure if that will make your scores better. Considering how you naturally throw the ball why not use that to your advantage and improve off it in accuracy and consistency through repetition versus changing your game all together?

I'm not sure why anyone would want to go to planting their foot and wearing a sneaker just to try and get a few extras revs. That will come at a price physically, and that price may cost you the sport all together. If you look at the greats of the PBA like Norm Duke, Parker Bohn III, Walter Ray Williams Jr, Pete Weber and so on they all make the game look effortless and with very little physical stress. I'd rather try for something closer to that and to have a career as long as possible in the sport. You still have the chance to score as high as any one else if you have the skill to do so. Selling out in a sense to the popular trend of more revs and more speed for scores isn't a guarantee of better scores.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: How to generate super speed
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2013, 02:09:50 PM »
Well, I am very accurate as attested to by both Kegel and IRTC. I am also in good control of ballspeed and rev rate. I am averaging 230+ in leagues and most tournaments.

The problem is that I have reached the end of what I can do. I need to improve my power at the pins (getting more off hit strikes) like the kids if I want to compete against them.

So bowling this weekend in a couple tournaments I determined that my thumb just could not get out of the ball before my ankle and that I was muscling my swing. So between games 2 and 3 of 5 I went to the local shop and asked them to drill me a new thumb (switchgrip) moving from 3/16 rev to 3/8 reverse. In game 3 I worked it out (manually ovaling) and threw it near the end. Immediately my thumb cleared, my finger felt th weight of the ball and the ball speed jumped up 3/4 of an MPH. By the end of the day, making the cut and eventually winning the event I was inside 23 throwing to 10 with 16.5 (a good 1Mph more and a significant increase in rev rate). I was throwing some sharpnel, getting a few bird dogs. Succesfully increasing the power at the pins

The more I relaxed my armswing the faster the ball went. So I think I am onto something here. :)

(Bowled Sunday in another event and did not fair as well, finished 9th... still a good showing)
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Re: How to generate super speed
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2013, 10:08:22 AM »
In your 50's and averaging 230+.   Dude that is awesome.  You should clean up the Senior PBA events.

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Re: How to generate super speed
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2013, 12:09:30 PM »
When athletes reach certain limits in ther ability,  no matter how successful they may be, they can incur more damage by trying to increase or improve their abilities...i.e. they lose their ways.
You need to understand your physical attributes are what they are and no matter what you want to do, you may not be able to change them...you are who you are...not someone else. When you change your natural attributes you can drastically effect the overall outcome as well as incur injury.
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