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Gizmo823

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Importance and benefits of a good fit
« on: April 22, 2014, 09:04:07 AM »
Sunday I bowled for a loooong time.  It was a sweeper of sorts, 5 games of qualifying, then cut to 32, double elimination bracket.  Qualified 11th, won my first match, lost the second, and then won 7 in a row to make it aaaalll the way through the losers bracket to the championship match where I ended up taking 2nd.  15 games over 6 1/2 hours.  No tape went in, no tape came out, I don't use skin tape, easy slide, rosin, new skin, ANYTHING, and I ended up with no blisters.  I'll be honest, I was sore, and my fingers were getting tender, but I made it through 15 games, and tonight we have our league baker trios tournament.  3 man scratch league, 14 teams, seeded into a bracket by total season points, best 2 out of 3 games advances.  1st place should be about $200 a man this year, so there's a lot of extra cash on the line.  So just two days after a pretty rough tournament, my hand isn't sore, tender, calloused, blistered, or beat up at all.  I'm ready to go, and I'm feeling good!  Get your fit dialed in, it's worth it!
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Re: Importance and benefits of a good fit
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2014, 10:36:25 AM »
Gizmo,

What did you do to get your fit "dialed in". What was the process?

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Re: Importance and benefits of a good fit
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2014, 10:54:44 AM »
In a conversation lately with a PBA star he noted there isn't one tour player or maybe just one who doesn't start with a larger hole and then ad or remove tape.
Whether tape in the hole or on the thumb the pros bowling for money use it.

How important is it to not have tape?  Why?

Just curious.

Regards,

Luckylefty
PS no injuries to hand a super goal!
PPS a perfect "butter" clean release that people almost wonder if you are a no thumber the ideal!
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Re: Importance and benefits of a good fit
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2014, 11:11:34 AM »
I drill my thumb larger because it is oval then add tape to get it fitted snug.

Depending on the temp, humidity, ect I can add and remove tape accordingly with no issue. High humidity is not uncommon through out different times of the year in the south.

I drilled my thumb hole to fit one time. It was ok for a few games then my thumb swelled and I could not use the ball.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: Importance and benefits of a good fit
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2014, 11:20:38 AM »
Everyone's hands/skin is different.  I'm with kidlost, I drill my thumb larger and add tape.  If you layer it correctly (i've seen nightmares in this regard) it takes all of 3 seconds to remove or add a piece of tape.  If you're lucky enough to not have to use tape, rosin, etc IMO that is very very odd.  Like Lefty said there's not alot of top tier players that don't use "something" in their thumb hole.  I know for me personally i have to use lots of rosin.  I tries the kegel no sweat stuff once, and it didn't work for me at all.

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Re: Importance and benefits of a good fit
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2014, 12:43:18 PM »
Tape is a bowlers friend.  If you bowl thru out the year with climate changes (hot or Cold), you have to use tape.  I do know a few who do not, BUT they are the exception.

Earl Anthony drilled a very large thumb hole and used tape to adjust it to his thumb.

Just because you use tape it does not mean you have a bad fit.

lilpossum1

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Re: Importance and benefits of a good fit
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2014, 01:28:23 PM »
Turbo switch grip ftw. A thumb for every weather condition, and I don't use tape. I just get my fit close enough and blow in the thumb hole if I feel it is slightly too loose.

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Re: Importance and benefits of a good fit
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2014, 02:25:25 PM »
In a conversation lately with a PBA star he noted there isn't one tour player or maybe just one who doesn't start with a larger hole and then ad or remove tape.
Whether tape in the hole or on the thumb the pros bowling for money use it.

How important is it to not have tape?  Why?

Just curious.

Regards,

Luckylefty
PS no injuries to hand a super goal!
PPS a perfect "butter" clean release that people almost wonder if you are a no thumber the ideal!

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http://www.bowl4fun.com/ron/btm04_files/btm4.htm

Taping the thumbhole

 

Taping the thumbhole needs to accomplish two things:

 

 #1: Create an airway so the thumb can move in and out without changing the air pressure in the thumbhole.

Many bowlers know to use tape to take up space in the hole, but most don’t know that it should also function as an air pressure equalizer. It takes at least three pieces of white tape layered on top of each other to produce two tiny airways on each side of the layered tape. This is about the bare minimum of airflow necessary to get a quick clean release from the thumb if the hole is snug, so keep this in mind when sizing your thumbhole.

You need to maintain at least three pieces of tape layered in the ball even when the thumb is swollen. It is ok to add as many pieces of tape as necessary to tighten the hole when the thumb shrinks, but I don’t think it is a good idea to have more than five pieces of tape in the front of the hole. Too many pieces of tape in the front will start to change the span and thumb pitch. If you don’t have room in your thumbhole for at least three pieces of tape after your thumb swells you can ether open the hole up or have your driller dill you a tiny vent hole.
            A vent hole is a tiny hole that is placed beside the thumb and exits near the bottom of the thumbhole. Vent holes used to be popular years ago and are covered by USBC rules, but they have disappeared over time; modern thumb slugs have vent holes built into them, but they often get clogged after being installed into the ball.
Ron C’s Magic Carpet is designed to flow air all around and through the product so only one piece is used.

#2 Keep the thumbhole the exact right fit.

Tape is added or removed to keep the thumbhole the exact right fit for the thumb as the thumb changes size. Very few thumbs (if any) are always the same size so something must be added or subtracted from the thumbhole to keep the fit perfect at all times. Tape can be added to the front of the thumbhole or the back or both. Ron C’s Magic Carpet always goes in the back of the thumbhole so white tape can be added to the front of the thumbhole if needed. I think that all tape should be placed at least one-forth of an inch below the top of the hole and each added piece should be placed one-sixteenth of an inch below the previous piece for easy removal.

Keep in mind that the “front” of the thumbhole means where the pad of the thumb comes in contact with the thumbhole, so it is usually a little offset from the very top of the hole. The “back” of the thumbhole refers to where the knuckle of the thumb comes in contact with the thumbhole and again this is usually offset from the center of the bottom of the hole.

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Gizmo823

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Re: Importance and benefits of a good fit
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2014, 03:00:35 PM »
I said no tape went in and no tape came out . . I didn't say there wasn't any tape in the thumbhole to begin with . . if I had no tape in there at all, there'd be no reason to say no tape came out . .

I know the benefits of tape, I too drill my thumbhole larger and put a few pieces of white on the front to make the fit better, matter of fact we suggest that.  There are those who "hate" to use tape, but MI 2 AZ posted why you should at least use a few. 

We also recommend tape over drilling extra slugs for interchangeable systems, you'll get a MUCH better fit by going a bit big and adding a few pieces of tape to snug it up than you will drilling extra slugs.  I have the IT system, I only have two slugs, and one of those is a backup in case one fails, and matter of fact I've never used it.   

The process is just being fit by someone who understands the way the hand functions and the forces present on your hand and arm during the armswing . . but that's a lot easier said than accomplished. 

As for the pros, they bowl so much that they could have the best fit on the planet and still have to adjust.  But people who just bowl a few leagues a week and the occasional tournament shouldn't have their hand or fingers swell enough to need to do or adjust much. 

I also say this because I used to be the poster boy for swelling and shrinking.  My fit hasn't ever been BAD, but it's never been this good.  I used to buy 500 count rolls of white tape and go through them in a year.  I'd show up, hands would be cold, 3-5 pieces would have to go in.  Get into the first game, at least one or two would come out, maybe all of them.  Then when that caused the friction to reduce, my thumb would start shrinking again so more would have to go back in.  I also have very moist, tacky hands, that's almost harder to fit for than dry hands. 

Now I still have the same 500 count roll I've had for 6 or 7 years, there are still 250 pieces on it, and it's a roll that my wife and I share.  I've been on both sides and very well understand swelling and shrinking issues, extreme swelling and shrinking I might add.  I'm not saying no one should EVER have to add or remove tape, but it shouldn't have to be any more than a piece or two here or there. 
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Re: Importance and benefits of a good fit
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2014, 04:24:13 PM »
I think my switch grip has a vent hole in it from the factory. I don't know though.

Gizmo, I saw your videos of pro shop tricks, and how you use the file to dig out a vent hole. Have you thought of using a hand drill and around a 3/16 drill bit to drill a hole in the side? IMO it would look like a more professional and neater job. That video may be out of date though

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Re: Importance and benefits of a good fit
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2014, 04:36:34 PM »
There are many that can fit in a static sense but very few that truly understand a dynamic fit and how the hand and digits function together and separately....many times a bad fit creates more bad habits in the approach than other factors...
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Re: Importance and benefits of a good fit
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2014, 09:34:47 AM »
Tip of a bevel knife, lot simpler, lot quicker.  Just put the point of it in the vent slit near the bottom and turn it back and forth like a screwdriver until you get through the wall.  You CAN use a drill, but we're after the functionality, and if you do it right with a bevel knife it's a LOT quicker, and actually looks better than using a drill, because you end up with a nice smooth tapered hole.  Also if you're using a drill, you'll find out really quick it's not that easy unless you have 3 or 4 hands or a vice grip or something, and then you have teeth marks all over the outside of your slug . . not professional looking. 

I think my switch grip has a vent hole in it from the factory. I don't know though.

Gizmo, I saw your videos of pro shop tricks, and how you use the file to dig out a vent hole. Have you thought of using a hand drill and around a 3/16 drill bit to drill a hole in the side? IMO it would look like a more professional and neater job. That video may be out of date though
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lilpossum1

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Re: Importance and benefits of a good fit
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2014, 10:21:14 AM »
Ahh I guess it would be a pain without something to hold it. I am just use to all the "garage tools," and not many pro shops have them

Gizmo823

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Re: Importance and benefits of a good fit
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2014, 11:23:05 AM »
Yeah, makes sense.  If you had a tiny little screwdriver sized drill or a dremel you could put a bit into that would probably work, but that's more expensive than a bevel knife . .

Ahh I guess it would be a pain without something to hold it. I am just use to all the "garage tools," and not many pro shops have them
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Re: Importance and benefits of a good fit
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2014, 11:29:14 AM »
Just a tad lol