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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: a_ak57 on February 16, 2004, 11:23:58 PM

Title: Important!!!
Post by: a_ak57 on February 16, 2004, 11:23:58 PM
Ok, look at my profile to get an idea of my stats.  I would like to buy a good medium oil ball, since i have a light oil and heavy oil ball, but no medium.  Know why that's a problem?  Cause that's what my local house is!!  I don't need a high end ball, but I'm not familiar with good medium-performance equipment, so I need you guys to suggest something good for me.  Please don't recommend anything over $180-200, I'm just a teenager and can't afford that!

I was thinking about an Eraser PP, since they are pretty cheap, but I have no idea about it, since I've never seen anyone use it.  Like I said, something along those lines, mid-performance.

I am also not partial to any company, so it doesn't matter who makes it.

Thanks for any help...
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: SrKegler on February 17, 2004, 02:40:38 PM
I haven't used the Eraser PP.  I just picked up a Boost last week that is working great (for me) on a medium condition.  Clears the heads well, great length, tremondous backend.
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: no1bucsfan on February 17, 2004, 02:41:48 PM
I have seen quite a few people do good with the groove series, they seem to be pretty good balls.

Spend the extra 50 and get an inferno.
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: a_ak57 on February 17, 2004, 02:46:41 PM
How much are infernos these days?  The thing is, the erasers are all like $100 now, so they are very affordable.

I'd love to have an inferno, but the cost is what's throwing me off...

I have too much speed to get a groove, especially since i play the outside of a condition that's either a reverse block or a big OOB...

Oh, i suped up my smashr for light medium mix...
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: AbsolutePunisher on February 17, 2004, 02:53:03 PM
I would suggest either a Sling Blade, or a Monster Slay/R.  I have both, drilled to go long (I throw around 16-17 mph, with a med/high rev rate).  I have had good success on all conditions with these balls, but esp when it is Med/Dry.  Both of these allow me to play a little straighter but still get a decent finish to the pocket.
Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: brimar on February 17, 2004, 03:02:50 PM
i have a Flash point for mediums and a absolutly love it. EXTREMELY predictable, but truthfully i dont think you can make a bad choice in medium priced equipment, the silver streak line from roto, eraser line from storm, monster line from big b, V2 line from ebonite and the crunch line from track...i wont recomend c300 to anyone anymore.

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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: MI 2 AZ on February 17, 2004, 03:20:05 PM
Instead of buying new, why dont you try something used?  There are some good deals to be found on this site and you could try a different company at a relatively cheap price.  After all, if you want to be known as a bowler, you had better start practising being cheap.  
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: a_ak57 on February 17, 2004, 03:31:30 PM
LMAO MI 2 AZ!  
 
The smashr has a short pin on it, so I can't do what i want to do, have a pin over ring ball.  I'm not very familiar with the silver streak line, though...

I'd prefer to get a pearlized ball.


MI 2 AZ, do you have stuff for sale by chance?  But the thing is, you really can't know who is trying to pull something on you...i mean it's a little suspicious to have 50 people with "less than 6 games" equipment they don't want...and some charge enough i might as well just get a cheap new ball...
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: crankncrash on February 17, 2004, 03:43:56 PM
I have an AZO drastic Spec R, 15lb and it really does have less than 6 games b/c the span was drilled short I really like the reaction but i know i can get more value out of it by getting rid of it. It has a span of about 4 5/8 - 4 3/4. I would sell it for the right offer but i think i may just move the thumb. If anybody is interested then let me know but don't bother if you want the typical low ball.
Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: a_ak57 on February 17, 2004, 03:56:37 PM
Well, there's one testimonial!  See the thing is, i think i need some reverse finger pitch in my stuff, so i have to either plug or buy new.  I'll see what kind of prices our local pro shop will give me....
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: 10pin2002 on February 17, 2004, 04:19:04 PM
I'm partial to Columbia, so I'd have to recommend BeastMaster if you want even reaction, Jeckyl or Messenger Ti Pearl if you like length.
Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: channel surfer on February 17, 2004, 04:34:27 PM
Well, I suggest the Detour, or the Hyde, all from the great people of Columbia.
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: BOWLGNUT on February 17, 2004, 04:34:51 PM
IF YOU ARE ON BALLREVIEWS.COM- TAKE A LOOK AT BALL MANUFACTERS AND IN THERE IS A BALL FOR YOU.I CAN'T SAY THAT THIS ONE IS RIGHT ONE FOR YOU OR THAT. GO THRU EACH ONE AND GET ALL INFRO ON WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.THAT IS WHAT I DID.EVEN GO TO WEBSITE OF DIFFERENT BALL COMPANIES ALSO.FROM YOU STATS A DRILLING FOR YOU POSSIBLY PIN ABOVE FINGERS FOR LENGHT AND SOME BACKEND.ASK SOME OF THE BOWLERS AS WELL.WISH YOU GOOD LUCK ON FINDING THE BALL FOR YOU.
Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: a_ak57 on February 17, 2004, 06:19:46 PM
Guess I'll ask my pro and see what he says.
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: Doc Hollywood on February 18, 2004, 10:09:50 AM
Take the money and pay for a small block of lessons. They will help you more in the longrun and you will be able to cover the conditions better with the equipment you have.

I don't know why so many people want to buy more equipment when their bowling style does not improve to the level of their equipment.

Are we so ego driven that we feel that the lessons are beneath us?

I admit that I buy a lot of bowling balls.  Not to have them but for testing purposes.

I do however take lessons and videotape myself bowling.  I continue to work on improving my game.

I can take just about any ball and make it work on just about any condition.  Not that the ball will be the best ball but I can make it work when I need to.



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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: seadrive on February 18, 2004, 10:47:19 AM
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I admit that I buy a lot of bowling balls.  Not to have them but for testing purposes.

Doc, what is it that you're testing them for?

ak57, the Smash/R is not a light oil ball.  I don't see why you can't set it up to handle medium oil just fine.

That said, the Eraser PP looks like a good ball.  Wouldn't mind trying one myself!

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Edited on 2/18/2004 11:45 AM
Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: a_ak57 on February 18, 2004, 02:24:27 PM
My smashr is drilled weak, but not by choice, it has a short pin, so i just use it for light or medium since it only flares a little bit. If i had a good pin out for me, like 3-4", then i wouldn't have made this topic, period.  But our local house is a medium reverse block or something, and the ball goes almost to the pins before it snaps.

I would get lessons, but the sad thing is is that bowling is a laugh here, the only person i could get lessons from is the pro shop owner, and he doesn't even come around more than once a week and besides, he probably wouldn't help much

I've actually been doing better by myself than people "helping" me.  The "coachs" they have at league keep trying to get me to do what they want, not what i'm good at, but their idiots, and so i don't listen to them.

Overall, i'm gonna try redrilling my diesel, stacked pin over ring, i haven't been using it much since it's used, and my hand is getting bigger.  Hopefully that will help.


I dislike our house, it's impossible to judge.  I've seen someone crank a fear factor with really high revs at 13 mph, hooking half of the lane, implying heavy oil, but i've also seen some one hook a tornado at 13 mph with almost no revs or anything, covering 20 boards....i just don't get it sometimes.
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: a_ak57 on February 19, 2004, 03:27:39 PM
No, i don't mean real coaches you hire...in practice before league, a couple people will come around and say stuff to you...of course, they only do that when you miss your mark and get a bad shot.  I'm not talking about people who personally are helping me, just some guy who walks around and say things, without even knowing a persons style or anything.  Typically, they'll tell me stay down after my release, but when i try to do that, it kind of throws me off.  I'm kinda like WRW, you know how he comes up pretty fast after he throws.  

Also, everyone who helps me is trying to convert me to a pure stroker, but I'm more of a tweener by nature, and I don't like that.  Of course, now I can play like that, but my A game is being a tweener. You can't argue with that.  I've seen countless people on here saying that people shouldn't force you to do what they want.  And you shouldn't assume that you know the "coach" at my league unless you bowl here.  Like i said, i don't think he's a registered coach.  And how do you know he's "steering me in the right direction" if he doesn't even know my name?!?  Like i said, he doesn't know me, he just goes lane to lane talking about stuff.

Anyways, I went bowling with BK yesterday, and found out my #1 problem....I'm getting backspin on the ball.  Does anyone know what this is the result of, and how to correct it?
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: Strider on February 19, 2004, 03:47:04 PM
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everyone who helps me is trying to convert me to a pure stroker, but I'm more of a tweener by nature, and I don't like that.

Anyways, I went bowling with BK yesterday, and found out my #1 problem....I'm getting backspin on the ball.  Does anyone know what this is the result of, and how to correct it?


You just found out you put backspin on the ball, but you know for a fact that you're naturally a tweener and you bowl on a reverse block????  I'll have to bite my tongue before I say something that will get me banned.  
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: Old Coach on February 20, 2004, 11:19:52 AM
Listen to what Doc and Jabroni are saying and maybe some day you might get to be as good and knowledgable as they are.  Being you are just getting started you have a chance to learn to bowl the right way and not develope a lot of bad habits that will be even harder to correct later on in life.  Good luck to you.
Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: a_ak57 on February 20, 2004, 02:22:54 PM
I get backspin with my smashr, but not my diesel.  Do any of you would know a cause of a ball hanging on my hand?  Is my thumbhole not beveled enough or something?  It doesn't come off my thumb very quickly, and it screws everything up.  My diesel is fine though, it comes off smooth and nice.  

And wtf does backspin having to do with me knowing how i release the ball, ie stroker, cranker, tweener?  Could you explain that to me exactly?   If you're just gonna be a cynical @ss hole, don't bother replying and posting useless comments.
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: a_ak57 on February 20, 2004, 08:49:08 PM
No, with the diesel, i get like a 45 degree angle of rotation.  It's drilled a bit differently, so that's why i was wondering...It's only my smashr.  Kind of odd...

I also think i might be cupping my wrist too long though, which could cause it.  I'll try and work things out in practice tommorrow.
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: a_ak57 on February 20, 2004, 09:04:07 PM
I'm going to try to keep my wrist flat tommorrow and see what happens.

Yeah, i tend to loft it sometimes, i've been trying to cut down on that.  And I'll work on my follow through.

Thanks King.
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: Saw Mill on February 21, 2004, 12:31:45 AM
I would suggest a Cherry Bomb or BCB, from (you guessed it) Lane 1!!!

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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: a_ak57 on February 21, 2004, 06:03:15 AM
Maybe i'm missing something, but i thought that a stroker is someone who uses a free arm release....I don't really do that, even when i throw it up the back, i have to think about it, which messes me up...

And what is crow barring exactly?

Oh, and did you not see the last 5 posts or something?

And i don't know what our house puts....no body in ANY league at all has over a 200 average.........and no we don't just suck.
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: a_ak57 on February 21, 2004, 11:09:27 AM
I wouldn't do that crowbar thing...I'd rather play down and in and take it easy...

Well, in June, I'll be testing my "skill" in our state junior tournament.

I pretty much base my game off of spares.  I'd rather be consistent at shooting spares than get one turkey and a bunch of opens...
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: a_ak57 on February 21, 2004, 02:18:48 PM
Well, at league today, i kept my wrist flat and had no more backspin.  Now, if i could just work on getting the process of cupped to flat down, i'd have my normal amount of revs back.  I also found it easier to aim without the awkward positioning.

That would be so awesome to have revs like tommy or robert and still be accurate, but that's why they're on tour.  I'd love to have a release like Chris Barnes.
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Title: Re: Important!!!
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on February 21, 2004, 02:44:34 PM
Yea man, you finally got a line down today, from what I saw. Too bad I couldnt do the same haha.
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