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Evening Sun

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Plastic balls with core vs. Urethane
« on: June 20, 2016, 01:22:41 PM »
I'm thinking about buying a plastic ball with a strong core (e.g. Track Spare+ or Hammer Widow Spare), which I can use as a spare ball and when the lanes turn to toast. Then again, a urethane ball (e.g. Motiv Artic Sniper) could serve the same purpose.
Is there anything that would speak for one or the other option? Since I don't have particularly high ball speed, it would seem that I'd be better off with plastic.
As always, I greatly appreciate any input.

 

avabob

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Re: Plastic balls with core vs. Urethane
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2016, 01:43:14 PM »
If you are looking for something on hooking lanes plus spare shooting I would go with urethane.  Strong cores don't help polyester enough to be a dry lane option except in the most extreme situations.  Take the urethane up to 4000 wet if you are concerned about lack of speed
« Last Edit: June 20, 2016, 01:45:25 PM by avabob »

amyers2002

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Re: Plastic balls with core vs. Urethane
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2016, 01:57:26 PM »
Hate to disagree with Avabob but I'm a slower speed rev dominate bowler and I simply cant use most urethanes for 10 pins on dry lanes. If I was going to go Urethane it would definitely be the polished sort like the Rebel Tank. I've had some decent success using my Ebonite skull spare ball which has a core for strikes. Most urethane for me simply hooks too early for me to use effectively I'm often much better off with a less aggressive resin like the Tropical Breeze or Rhino.

Brandon Riley

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Re: Plastic balls with core vs. Urethane
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2016, 02:29:18 PM »
As a guy that has thrown almost everything at spares, I feel that it depends entirely on your speed/rev match up.
If you are either soft with your speed, rev dominant, 2 handed or are bowling on extremely dry conditions (old wood), then I like plastic for spares.  The plastic balls with a core seem gimmicky to me, but if you go that direction I would recommend sanding the polish off of them to help blend the reaction from wet/dry and hopefully give you enough roll to experience some carry.  I am not a fan of plastic unless it is an absolute last resort since it is difficult to carry consistently.

For people who have decent ball speed and can kill their release I recommend sticking with a weaker reactive (drilled tame) or urethane.  It saves a spot in your bag for a ball which you can use for either dry or really short lanes and this is what an increasing number of tournament level players are doing.
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Evening Sun

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Re: Plastic balls with core vs. Urethane
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2016, 04:28:19 PM »
Thanks to all of you for the great info. I have low speed and am slightly rev dominant.
My PSO is trying to steer me away from urethane because I don't have the ball speed and he (and I for that matter) are concerned that urethane will simply roll up far too soon for me to have any decent carry.
I think I'll try Brandon's suggestion of adding surface to a plastic and seeing how that pans out. If all fails, I'll try urethane.
Thanks again for your help.

avabob

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Re: Plastic balls with core vs. Urethane
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2016, 06:22:03 PM »
Just one more thought.  For a pure spare ball I agree totally with polyester, but you don't need a strong core.  My answer was based on trying to do double duty where I think you would be disappointed with polyester for hooking conditions even with the strong core.  It really does depend on your game though. 

Dave81644

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Re: Plastic balls with core vs. Urethane
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2016, 07:06:55 PM »
i had this exact scenario
old dry wood lanes
over/under most nights
if you had any hand, you were in fora rough night
try many pieces over the years
OG blue vibe was great, but wore it out, the old wood lanes chewed up equipment pretty quick (recent demo days seminar mentioned that wood lanes were 600 grit equivalent)
then the OG JET was also really good, surface hard a rock
eventually had a urethane (modern one) and it hooked right away and stopped
went to the Taboo spare, which I had to scuff a little
that ball was money as long as I got it out a little, carry was weird looking, but it carried well for the most part. shot 803 with it
If I missed in, it went dead straight
place is closed now, but I still have that taboo spare...just in case