Author Topic: Inserts or no Inserts? (Read 2405 times)

noturcuzin · « **on:** October 04, 2008, 10:54:56 AM »

Hey guys, just curious as to how many people don't use inserts in their bowling balls? For some reason inserts leave blisters on my fingers but for thumb slugs there is no difference in feel. By the way I only have one ball with a thumb slug, my Prophecy.
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renoatpikeville · « **Reply #1 on:** October 04, 2008, 07:16:53 PM »

I use inserts in every ball except my spare ball. I've experimented between the two.

I think its best if you put thumb slugs in all your balls. That way each one feels somewhat similar. (depending on your drillers' accuracy).

Also...each ball has different thickness of coverstock and filler material which could effect feel in the ball.

As for the reasons why you are getting blisters on your fingers, I cannot explain.

noturcuzin · « **Reply #2 on:** October 04, 2008, 07:25:41 PM »

I don't know ethier, it's weird. I have tried throwing a ball with inserts but everytime I get blisters. The inserts fit correctly and i'm not squeezing the bowling ball or anything.
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JOHN BELUSHI:1949-1982

JIM MORRISON:1943-1971

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renoatpikeville · « **Reply #3 on:** October 04, 2008, 07:27:16 PM »

How long have you been bowling? Where are the blisters on your fingers? Are the inserts ovals or lifters...etc?

noturcuzin · « **Reply #4 on:** October 04, 2008, 07:32:28 PM »

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How long have you been bowling? Where are the blisters on your fingers? Are the inserts ovals or lifters...etc?

Been bowling seriously now for 3 years. The blisters occure right on the side of my ring and middle fingers. They are oval inserts. I tried my friends Mammoth which has lifters, it didn't leave blisters but my fingers were sore afterwords.

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JOHN CANDY:1950-1994

JOHN BELUSHI:1949-1982

JIM MORRISON:1943-1971

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los2003 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 04, 2008, 07:35:29 PM »

I use grips but I'm thinking about stopping because I tear them up so fast. If I throw a ball a lot I go through a set every month maybe more..

noturcuzin · « **Reply #6 on:** October 04, 2008, 07:37:21 PM »

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I use grips but I'm thinking about stopping because I tear them up so fast. If I throw a ball a lot I go through a set every month maybe more..

Dang, that's a lot of grips to go through.
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JOHN CANDY:1950-1994

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JIM MORRISON:1943-1971

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charlest · « **Reply #7 on:** October 04, 2008, 07:42:18 PM »

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I don't know ethier, it's weird. I have tried throwing a ball with inserts but everytime I get blisters. The inserts fit correctly and i'm not squeezing the bowling ball or anything.
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JOHN CANDY:1950-1994

JOHN BELUSHI:1949-1982

JIM MORRISON:1943-1971

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Something else is VERY wrong. Just because they are more grippy, that should not cause blisters. Do you have forward pitch in the fingers, by chance?

I also wonder if your span is too long or your driller is not allowing enough room, span should be reduced, cut to cut, roughly by 1/8" when you add grips.
Is he doing that?
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Edited on 10/4/2008 7:44 PM

charlest · « **Reply #8 on:** October 04, 2008, 07:46:38 PM »

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I use grips but I'm thinking about stopping because I tear them up so fast. If I throw a ball a lot I go through a set every month maybe more..

As far as my knowledge goes, you're either squeezing the living crap out your fingers, or the span is too long. See what I wrote for noturcuzin: the span has to be reduced by width of the grip's gripping depth: 1/8" roughly. It varies with the size of the grip and the brand, probably.

Maybe you just need one of the firmer grips, also. There are different densities.
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slashrr69 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 04, 2008, 07:49:24 PM »

lifters would lengthen your span if not measured correctly..this would make your fingers sore or tired.. also it sounds to me like your pitches in your fingers might be a little off.. if it is happening in the same spot on both fingers, I would have the pitches checked.. just a thought..

noturcuzin · « **Reply #10 on:** October 04, 2008, 07:51:27 PM »

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I don't know ethier, it's weird. I have tried throwing a ball with inserts but everytime I get blisters. The inserts fit correctly and i'm not squeezing the bowling ball or anything.
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JOHN CANDY:1950-1994

JOHN BELUSHI:1949-1982

JIM MORRISON:1943-1971

"NO RESPECT, I GET NO RESPECT."-the great Rodney Dangerfield

Something else is VERY wrong. Just because they are more grippy, that should not cause blisters. Do you have forward pitch in the fingers, by chance?

I also wonder if your span is too long or your driller is not allowing enough room, span should be reduced, cut to cut, roughly by 1/8" when you add grips.
Is he doing that?
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Edited on 10/4/2008 7:44 PM

No I don't use grips anymore, I had them in one ball but I had them removed because of this. Your probably right, my old driller probably miss-measured my span for grips. I have a new driller and there hasn't been any problems since. Oh and nope, no forward pitch in any fingers. Thanks charlest!
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JOHN BELUSHI:1949-1982

JIM MORRISON:1943-1971

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gbrown · « **Reply #11 on:** October 04, 2008, 07:53:55 PM »

I have tried no grips and my fingers swell up and get raw.
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charlest · « **Reply #12 on:** October 04, 2008, 08:12:11 PM »

FWIW, I virtually have to use grips because my fingers swell and shrink with the morning tide. They help to allow me to grip, when my finger doesn'tfit exactly, besides allowing easy adjustments by adding or removing shims in the back, between the grip and the hole's wall.

When I didn't use grips, I had to cut little tiny piece of tape and insert them to the back of the hole and remove them. Extremely tedious and inaccurate. Someone actually makes tiny pieces of plastic to use as shims. I use cut up pieces of business cards.
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los2003 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 04, 2008, 08:30:23 PM »

well I use ovals. I bowl 3 leagues a week plus practice and I have a rev rate of between 350 and 400. I can back off if I need to though. I'm gonne start ordering all my grips online because 10 bucks a set is kinda high. maybe 12 depending what house I'm in at the time.

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I use grips but I'm thinking about stopping because I tear them up so fast. If I throw a ball a lot I go through a set every month maybe more..

As far as my knowledge goes, you're either squeezing the living crap out your fingers, or the span is too long. See what I wrote for noturcuzin: the span has to be reduced by width of the grip's gripping depth: 1/8" roughly. It varies with the size of the grip and the brand, probably.

Maybe you just need one of the firmer grips, also. There are different densities.
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Xcessive_Evil · « **Reply #14 on:** October 04, 2008, 09:59:12 PM »

A few years ago, I didn't use inserts or slugs. My fingers and thumb would more often than not be sore after a night of bowling. I also had to deal with the uncomfortable feel of trying to throw after my hand swells up. I thought of the possibilty that I didn't have the ball fitted properly, so I had it done again.

The shop suggested to try grips initially, along with trying to not hold the ball with the jaws of life. The difference was night and day. The thumb slugs came not too long after that. Even my spare ball(which isn't even a true spare ball) has grips and a slug. I can't even imagine throwing a ball without it.

Since you have a new driller, why don't you try it again? Take a ball(if you have one)that you don't use anymore, and see what happens.
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