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ksucat

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help retaining axis rotation
« on: February 10, 2004, 04:15:42 AM »
My teammate is a quality player, but he has some difficulty retaining axis rotation on his shots.  We bowl league on fairly dry lanes and his shots seem to roll out too quick and he leaves lots of weak 10 pins.  Last week, he stayed after league and put a piece of white tape on his axis to see if he could get more rotation.  I watched in amazement that he could get the tape to face him, but it would quickly lose this rotation and still ping at impact.  He tried a couple different balls, but still lost this rotation very quickly.  

How much will the ball dynamics (layout, surface strength, surface prep, etc.) affect this loss of rotation?  

How much does the axis tilt affect this loss?  I noticed that even when he could achieve what looked like 90 degree axis rotation, his tilt was around 0-20 degrees.

 

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Re: help retaining axis rotation
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2004, 08:35:29 PM »
If all the balls are sanded and all have a low rg, this could be the cause(i doubt it).

I think its the way his bowling balls are laid out.

Or perhaps he does not have enough speed on the ball. If thats the case, throw it faster.(dur)
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Re: help retaining axis rotation
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2004, 09:18:14 PM »
In many cases, the main reason for roll-out (= weak 10 pins) is too much surface for the bowler's speed on the oil pattern.
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Re: help retaining axis rotation
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2004, 08:48:40 AM »
Layout, ball design and surface characteristics all play a big part.

Layout- is his cg kicked out at all this will lend to a losing axis sooner?

Ball charcteristics - Does he use balls witha Low RG? Go with longer cores to help maintain axis.

surface- The more surface friction the faster it will migrate toward roll. Try some polish or a finer grit wet/sand surface. If he tries polish and it gets over/under too much go to just a smoother grit surface.

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ksucat

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Re: help retaining axis rotation
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2004, 09:36:24 AM »
Lefty, you hit it pretty well.  It looked like the 2-3 balls he regularly uses all have the pin either just above or below the fingers and the cg kicked out.  One of the balls he tries is a polished V2, which is a great ball, but really wants to roll quick on these lanes.  He has a couple polished and one with a smooth finish on it, so surface doesn't look too bad.  I told him he needs to make a trip to see Pinbuster's boss and update his equipment.  

These lanes seem to punish control and reward high risk types of games.  Guys that can get the ball to turn over hard on the backends can shoot monster scores.  There is, of course, a downside to this in that you can leave some nasty splits as well.  A real Flingers dream house.