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MSC2471

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How would you use practice time during league warmups?
« on: February 15, 2004, 02:11:36 AM »
I'm posing this question after getting off the phone with a friend of mine when I was discussing the current dilemma I face in my home house. I'll try to explain the situation as best as possible.

For the first two months of the league, the owner of the house was putting out the same shot as the previous owner (who didn't care what went into the oil machine, the cleaning of the buffer/shims, and so forth). The shot was oiled to 17 feet and then buffed to 32 feet. Whatever was out there wasn't much, because people were hooking plastic equipment gutter to gutter. We asked the owner to put more oil down on both sides- and he has.

The problem is- it's still drier inside of 3rd arrow on both sides, but flooded on the first 5 on both sides. Essentially he set up a reverse block without even knowing what he was doing.

I'm the only lefty in the league. What can I do during 5 minutes of warm ups on my pair so that I can hopefully create a little more area by the time games 2 and 3 roll around? I see righties that struggle for the first game but then shoot bigger numbers game 2, only to not make the right transitions in game 3 (when carrydown takes place) and watch their scores decrease. Typically on this shot my scores have gotten better throughout each game, but it's been lately between 170-190's as if I miss left, I wash out, and if I miss right, I cross over.

The lanes are wood as well if that helps any. My bowling profile lists the equipment I have. My friend told me to line up for my strike line once on each line- then do a 2 board move to the right with my feet and drift the ball out 2 boards as well left and try to hit the 2 pin, getting that oil further left to carry down to hopefully open up the shot more. I know that the pros do something similar to this when they are bowling.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Matt

Edited on 2/16/2004 1:03 PM

 

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Re: How would you use practice time during league warmups?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2004, 06:02:38 PM »
Hey Matt,

Something sounds fishy here, you say they're reversed and you're a lefty.  But then you say if you miss right(washout), and miss left you(crossover)?  This is a wall, not a reverse block reaction...I'm confused.  My typical recommendation is wherever you can hook from, move right to make that your bumper area to hook back from, correct?  Tell me if I'm wrong but something here doesn't add up.
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Re: How would you use practice time during league warmups?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2004, 07:48:25 PM »
BJP, while that is something used in regional and national events, it tends not to work well in leagues.  The reason it is not suited for leagues is the short period of time for practice prior to the league session beginning.  In Tour events, the practice prior to the block is usually 20-30 minutes with only 3-4 people to the pair...most of whom are all playing the same line or area.  

In that environment, a few people can play create-a-shot in a short period of time...unfortunately, in league, there are not enough people that are ever going to be willing to throw their first two shots in practice on both lanes using plastic.

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Re: How would you use practice time during league warmups?
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2004, 12:07:28 PM »
Tenpinspro: I'm going to make the edit to the post. If I miss left I wash out, if I miss right it's a crossover/brooklyn type shot. Sorry for the confusion...

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Re: How would you use practice time during league warmups?
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2004, 05:45:23 AM »
Hey Matt,

Are you going to the Nationals this year or any year for that matter?  This is exactly what they have out there.  That's why you'll hear horror stories coming back or what I enjoy, how many so-called 220's shoot under 500.  This isn't an easy shot, not by any means.  To try and open it up doesn't really apply either, only thing I could recommend is that you're still describing an O/U condition, just this time, it's reversed.  Well, one of my suggestions for an O/U shot is to have some thing that rolls a little early but a very, very, mellow or controlled backend reaction.  This way, when you miss left, the ball picks up and comes back sooner hopefully not reaching the OB and if you tug it, it'll only hook a minimal amount because it has very little backend to it.  I've found success with this type of ball on all reverses because it has the most control I can get.  The give and take here is that when you hit the hole, you tend to leave corners but at least that means spares vs splits.  Hopefully you can put a couple together and spare.  A pretty good game on these conditions I'd say is about 220.  Hope this helps...
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Re: How would you use practice time during league warmups?
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2004, 06:35:13 AM »
I saw a lefty do just what Rick describes the other week. The condition was a bad case of reverse block - a 38 feet flat pattern on worn wood lanes which had not been resurfaced for a long time. These lanes normally play deep, but that's with a christmas tree pattern. Now outside of ten was real slippery and inside was dry from the get go.

Anyway, this lefty was using an Apex Intensity with a mellow drill. His line was approximately 3 at the release point and 5 at the arrows. He did this with pretty high speed and without using his wrist to put revs on the ball. He played the same line the whole six games. The righties that did well were playing a tight line from 20-30 at the arrows using pearls or polished resins.

In my view, it was not possible to create area on this condition. The two lefties in the squad did well because they were versatile and because they both could play roughly the same line the whole time. The righties had to move deeper and deeper to find enough oil.
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Re: How would you use practice time during league warmups?
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2004, 07:34:09 AM »
The difference from the Pros warming up with plastic and us is this.  They are by themselves normally and usually get ample time to accomplish the carry down/hold result.  We maybe get 2-4 balls at most because some clown is always taking forever like he is on 35 in a row hoping for 900 with this last practice shot.  I wish there were no pins and all just threw one shot and got lose.  

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Re: How would you use practice time during league warmups?
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2004, 11:08:26 PM »
This evening during league I decided to play a deeper line with my Barbed Wire (which is drilled with some negative weight to hold more energy for the back end). I had to remember to keep the line tight (I was swinging 20 to 17, moderate speed) and I was leaving a number of 7 pins, 10 pins and 6 pins from that angle. When I missed left past 12 board I didn't hit the head pin, but I usually left 1-3-6 combinations. I shot 198 the first game (one open) and 210 the second game (washout in the 7th). Game three I think I was coming around the side of the ball rather than straight through as I started the game with a pocket 7-9 and then in frames 3 and 4 left back to back pocket 5-7's. Slowed the ball speed down and managed to check out with a 164 game (left another pocket 7-9 on the fill ball in the 10th). Was 2nd high on the pair (my dad shot 568) and overall I saw people throwing at least one 200 game, but usually started or followed by a 150-175 game.

So I guess I should consider a 220 game really good on this shot, eh? That's what I'll be striving for next week, as well as more clean games...

Matt

Edited on 2/18/2004 4:51 AM