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Ragnar

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interesting transition
« on: March 13, 2005, 11:59:41 PM »
I bowled a little local tournament yesterday and found one of the quickest transitions I've ever seen.  I don't know the pattern other than a basic THS wall type shot - puddled in the middle, dry outside.  I was playing a laydown at 12 out to the five board 4 feet past the arrows and averaging about 220.  Third frame of the fifth game it appeared as if my breakpoint suddenly jumped about 25 feet closer to the foul line; no gradual change, just a sudden jerk.  Everyone noticed it.  Now the question is, what is your strategy?  Seems that you have one of two choices - go to a weaker ball and stay with your line or chase the oil line into the middle and hope to carry.  Which do you do?  Or is there another alternative?
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Re: interesting transition
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2005, 08:06:22 AM »
I would go weaker and try to stay near the shot I was playing.  Then at last resort go left.

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Re: interesting transition
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2005, 08:10:44 AM »
I usually take a big step to the left.  I prefer to play the lanes straighter, but if they lanes call for you to hook it then that's what I do.  I figure I'd be able to play a line deeper longer than I could play the straight line with a weaker ball since that shot is already going downhill.
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Re: interesting transition
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2005, 10:39:37 AM »
I personally move in generally I start with 3 boards with my feet and 2 on the lane and adjust from there. This may vary depending on who I’m bowling with and where on the lane they are playing in relation to me.  

I figure if I had the right combination of speed and turn on the original line I would like to keep that so adjusting lines is my first option.

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Re: interesting transition
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2005, 10:52:29 AM »
I tried a weaker ball and it still hooked too early and too much.  Moved in with it and couldn't carry.  Went back to the stronger ball, made a medium-large lurch left (about a 5 and 3 move) and all was good again.  I prefer, if possible, to stay near a line that I know will carry, if I can.  But sometimes you just can't do that.
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Re: interesting transition
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2005, 11:02:55 AM »
Like Bones says, there are options, it all depends on the lanes, and your ability to change your game. I tend to use the same ball, but make a move left and maybe use a little weaker release. The condition you describe, may take more drastic measures. I would move left and go to a weaker ball. A shot or two will tell you what your next move is. Keep moving left until you have to ask the guy on the left lane if he will move over.  

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Re: interesting transition
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2005, 11:15:02 AM »
Rags – I have the same problem. If I go to a weaker ball at best I can only use it for a couple of shots and then have to move in anyways. Once I get that early jump on a part of the lane I continue to have it sometimes even down to urethane/plastic.

That’s why I always go deeper in search of some head oil to hold the ball back.  

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Re: interesting transition
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2005, 11:25:00 AM »
Rags,

Sometimes I make a large move left to find the oil using a polished ball looking to get some skid and retaining energy to carry the pocket. A large move sometimes is too much but you can see that there is hold there somewhere.  Small moves on a condition like that doesn't seem to work for me. But if you are using a polished ball, that will make the ball jump when it hits the backends once dry.  Using a weaker polished ball might be better, but will still move fast when it hits the dry, of course release makes a difference.  I have seen bowlers play up against the ball return swinging the ball dramatically.  I'm sure most have seen pros loft it over the gutter caps.

But one time I bowled along side of Mika and I was playing very deep and Mika was just rolling it down the lane with little swing and consistently hitting the pocket.  He had no polish on the ball and I think he was throwing a Money.  Particle vs reactive is also a major difference in reaction on flying back ends.  But with the polish off the ball it lost energy quicker and didn't over react once it found the dry.  Realizing of course very few people bowl as well as Mika

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Re: interesting transition
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2005, 12:41:37 PM »
I happen to believe that todays technology requires starting the ball in oil. Because of that belief, I move with the oil line. I monitor the mid lane reaction to determine the shell (material and surface) and use the reaction at the break point to determine the layout.
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Re: interesting transition
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2005, 04:34:33 PM »

Rags, quietly move to the lane you were SUPPOSED to be bowling on...

actually, that radical a change would've caused me throw out current history and pretend I just walked in the door.  
WIth what you described, I would've pulled out the yellow dot and thrown straight up five.  the trick is to do it first before everyone else notices and makes the adjustment.


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Re: interesting transition
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2005, 10:49:17 PM »
I will make a medium to large jump left.  Try to find more head oil and enough angle in the back for carry.  If the original line fries like you described, anything weaker than pearl urethane will still snap when it gets to that dry spot.
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