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ImakeA2srun

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« on: June 01, 2010, 09:37:13 AM »
They way I see it here is the breakdown from 40 years ago when 200 was actually good.

                  1970 average                  2010 average
                 
                  190-210                       220-240


                  170-190                       200-220

                 
                  150-170                       180-200

 Agree or disagree?

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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2010, 05:42:06 PM »
And what is this based on? Anything tangible? or just your reasoning?

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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010, 05:47:58 PM »
My old coach averaged 208 in 1970. It was one of the highest averages in his region. He won the association high triple with 708 for the year(Triple cities bowling association). He won twice on tour in 1972. Now if you cant average 240 on THS, you cant crack an egg on tour.
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2010, 06:23:17 PM »
I would say those jumps seem pretty correct..

but...

Strip , clean, and put the oil down like they did in the 70''s and I bet no one will average 240 or 220...

Yes the bowling ball technology helps a ton.. balls will hook harder off the dry.. and that dry doesn''t need to be as dry as it did in the 70''s ...So yes.. balls will hook more in oil than they did in the 70''s and 80''s..

but the oil pattern rules all.. there are patterns that can be put down that will keep most anyone from breaking 210 on a consistant basis.

precisely metered and placed oil in a high scoring configuration and clean backends is what creates high scores.



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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2010, 06:52:44 PM »
quote:
They way I see it here is the breakdown from 40 years ago when 200 was actually good.

                  1970 average                  2010 average
                 
                  190-210                       220-240


                  170-190                       200-220

                 
                  150-170                       180-200

 Agree or disagree?

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Quote from Completebowler "League folded but no league replaced it. Center closed and he lost his job, Funny stuff." Your a swell guy Complete, lol.


To be honest, ImakeA2srun, I don't you've made the transition from your world of 1970/80 to today's bowling reality. You have not shown recognition for any of the things many people have pointed out to you. I think you stuck in the "WayBack" machine and you won't make the run to today's world. You contantly think there's a simple equation that makes the pieces of yesterday's world into today's and that will never be true, because it always more complicated that you want to admit.

I'm sorry I just can't read any more of your posts or comments. They show you're just not in tune with what's going on in the world of bowling right now. I think you had the possibility of adding a lot but you seem to miss the essence of every conversation you join.

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ImakeA2srun

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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2010, 09:37:26 PM »
I dont even understand your comment. Your broken english gives me a headache.
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2010, 10:11:43 PM »
I think it goes in steps. You couldn't average 220 on todays lanes with 1970's equipment and I don't think you could do well on the lighter oil volumes of the 70's with todays aggressive equipment.
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2010, 07:15:58 AM »
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They way I see it here is the breakdown from 40 years ago when 200 was actually good.

                  1970 average                  2010 average
                 
                  190-210                       220-240


                  170-190                       200-220

                 
                  150-170                       180-200

 Agree or disagree?

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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2010, 07:29:54 AM »
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I think it goes in steps. You couldn''t average 220 on todays lanes with 1970''s equipment and I don''t think you could do well on the lighter oil volumes of the 70''s with todays aggressive equipment.
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HOLD UP!!! there are guy(s) that use VG''s and other overly aggresive equipment to tame down the raction on high friction low volume lanes....  they would prolly score pretty good on those 1970''s lanes....  

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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2010, 07:32:03 AM »
A lot has change since then in more ways then one. It goes for all sports. Its not just the bowling equipment, its not just the drill knowledge, its not just the oil pattern, its not just people being able to create more revs, and its not just a greater knowledge of the sport in general.

It is a greater combination of many different factors and progressions. You can't blame it on just the equipment.
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2010, 07:44:43 AM »
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They way I see it here is the breakdown from 40 years ago when 200 was actually good.

                  1970 average                  2010 average
                 
                  190-210                       220-240


                  170-190                       200-220

                 
                  150-170                       180-200

 Agree or disagree?

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Quote from Completebowler "League folded but no league replaced it. Center closed and he lost his job, Funny stuff." Your a swell guy Complete, lol.


To be honest, ImakeA2srun, I don't you've made the transition from your world of 1970/80 to today's bowling reality. You have not shown recognition for any of the things many people have pointed out to you. I think you stuck in the "WayBack" machine and you won't make the run to today's world. You contantly think there's a simple equation that makes the pieces of yesterday's world into today's and that will never be true, because it always more complicated that you want to admit.

I'm sorry I just can't read any more of your posts or comments. They show you're just not in tune with what's going on in the world of bowling right now. I think you had the possibility of adding a lot but you seem to miss the essence of every conversation you join.

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ImakeA2srun has allowed the game to pass him by. Your wasting your breath trying to explain anything to him charlest.
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2010, 10:31:19 AM »
I agree charlest.  He doesn't "get it" because he simply doesn't want to and is in "1970-1980 narrow minded" mode.  He has a problem with himself.
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2010, 11:58:23 AM »
You guys make no sense. The post has nothing to do with me!!!! It is a simple post, either you agree or disagree! I wasnt even born until the 70 s. Stop making everything about me and answer the question you idiots.
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2010, 12:00:56 PM »
Thought you had me on ignore any complete, please put me back on, I dont want to hear from you!
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