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Pinbuster

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Is bowling really more expensive?
« on: March 29, 2004, 06:21:57 PM »
In 1965 a pretty good job would pay $3 an hour (at least in our area), men’s leagues cost around $2.50 a week (about  .8 hours wages), and a new mid priced rubber ball was $25 about 8 hours wages.

Today  a pretty good job would pay $20 a hour, men’s leagues cost about $12 (only about .6 hour of wages) and a new mid price resin/particle ball cost $150 add inserts and you are looking at about 8 hours wages.

Now granted today you may need 2 or 3 balls (remember this is for league play) so why do so many today feel bowling has gotten so much more expensive than before? Bowling is actually cheaper than it was 40 years ago.

Most of the added costs that people associate with bowling today have nothing to do with the cost of bowling itself. Side pots, brackets, beer, food, and the ever increasing desire to have huge prize funds.

And it must not be too tough economically on us. When I was bowling youth leagues few had their own balls, bag, and shoes.  Even the high school kids then used house balls for the most part.

Today (at least in youth leagues around here), virtually all the kids over 12 have their own ball. By 15 most have multiple balls with wheeled bags and Dexter SST shoes. You watch the high schoolers bowl and most bring in 4 balls. Money doesn’t really seem to be an object.

 

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Re: Is bowling really more expensive?
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2004, 09:23:23 AM »
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Re: Is bowling really more expensive?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2004, 10:59:09 AM »
obviously it is
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Re: Is bowling really more expensive?
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2004, 11:11:03 AM »
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I don't know where you live, but this isn't true if you live in Oklahoma. For most people in Oklahoma, after they pay their rent/house payment, taxes, insurance, utilities, groceries, clothe the family, car payment, car insurance, auto repairs/tires, school supplies for children, expenses for their needs, and etc. most people are lucky if they can afford $40-$50 for a good used ball, cheap bowling shoes and have enough money left to go bowl/join a league with.

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Re: Is bowling really more expensive?
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2004, 11:15:21 AM »
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Plus, we forget that we have a chance to win back some the cost while bowling. We dont get a cent after shooting a good round of golf.


You don't play in any leagues, tournys, skin games, or ever have side bets?  You make money in golf the same way you do in bowling.  Infact that's the part of both games I find very similar.  I make way more in golf than I do in bowling.  This weekend I shot 67 and won about $250 in skins and side bets.  I would say I was rewarded for shooting a pretty good round.

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Re: Is bowling really more expensive?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2004, 01:02:42 PM »
Just so I can add my .02, some of this I agree with and some of it I don't. Now, I was born in 1970, so some of the prices you guys are talking about I'm never going to see. But, in it's own way, I feel that bowling has gotten a bit more expensive.

Now, to compare it to golf, to me, it depends again. I mean if you’re trying to plunk down some money to some forged Nike clubs, yeah it's kind of hard for bowling to keep up with that...or is it? Think about it. The most expensive ball line in the history of our sport was the Quantum's, hands down. I remember seeing them at the ABC Nationals when they were in Mobile, AL.

For a NIB Quantum, you were going to be dropping $300 bucks easily. Get more than one ball for various lane conditions (there were three balls at launch if I remember correctly...) you’re in the $900+ range. And that's not including if you had it drilled with inserts then your closer to $1000! Now, I seriously doubt anyone did this, of course if you had the money, it doesn't make a difference anyway.

Top of the line balls now a days (from what I've seen...) cost anywhere from...oh, $200-$250+. What really hurts me is the drilling prices they have today. I mean, I know pro shops have got to make their money, but $50+ dollars just to drill a ball!?!? Yeah, your local pro shop will add the price of drilling to the balls but some places I've been to have you pay the full price of the ball, this amount for drilling, and then inserts! Now, if there's one thing that I feel that went up in price it’s this.

Now, even if we got this out of the way, the bags, shoes, shirts, and accessories that we use today aren't anything to scoff at either. Here's how I see it form an "avid" bowlers perspective:

4 NIB bowling balls: $500-600
Drilling and Inserts: $300
4 ball roller bag: $200
Bowling accessories: $100
Top of the line bowling shoes: $200

Taking your equipment to Nationals and getting all the money you spent back on your first time out there: PRICELESS!

LOL! You see my point right? With golf, yeah it's expensive as hell, but you could probably go through more bowling balls than you will a really good pair of sticks. I've known people who've kept the same clubs for 10+ years. You can do this with a bowling ball, but after a while it'll probably be only good for lighter oil conditions. With golf clubs, from what I've been told, you can have them re-grooved, re-wrapped, re-shafted and Lord knows what else done to keep your favorite pair of sticks going strong.

Well, to be honest with you, there are too many comparisons you could make between the two. I'm sure some may agree with what I say and some may not. But overall, I agree that bowing is getting more expensive.



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Re: Is bowling really more expensive?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2004, 02:02:44 PM »
Check out the "cost" of my three "hobbies"...golf, flyfishing, and bowling...

Golf:  
1 High-tech Driver...$400
2 fairway woods with steel shaft...$175 ea. ($230 ea. for graphite shafts)
1 set of top-of-the-line irons (steel shafts...$800, graphite shafts...$1200)
1 big name putter...$150-$250
1 doz. top-of-the-line golf balls...$42.00
1 golf bag to carry all this stuff...$159
Then you have tees, gloves, shoes, any other nice apparel (shirts, windshirts, etc...).  And don't forget about those outrageous greens fees and cart fees.

Flyfishing:
1 high quality graphite flyrod...$535
1 disc drag reel...$200
1 fly line w/backing...$65
1 pair of Gore-Tex waders...$300
1 pair of quality wading boots...$90
1 wading staff...$75
1 fishing vest...$90
1 quality mesh landing net...$75
And that's just for starters.  If you fish smaller stream for smaller fish, or go after bigger prey like salmon, steelhead, or any saltwater variety...you need a different rod, reel, and line for each of these.  Then, don't forget about flies ($1.75 - $3.50 ea.), fly boxes, leaders, tippet material, fly flotant, weight, indicators, snippers, and any other gadget you may need on the stream.  By the way, did I mention the cost of the fishing license, or the price of the Guide to take you on that "special" float trip???  Or what about that other hobby that goes along with flyfishing...fly tying...you're looking at another $500-$1000 if you get into that.

Bowling:
Top of the line, high tech, high mass bias, particle cover bowling ball for heavy oil, drilled by local pro...$250
Top of the line, high tech, symmetrical core, reactive bowling ball for medium conditions, drilled by local pro...$150
Plastic ball to handle spares and/or dry conditions, drilled by local pro...$75
Top of the line bowling shoes...$125
Three ball roller to carry stuff...$150
League...$10
Open bowling...$2.75

When I decided to get back into bowling, the GF says "oh great, something else for you to spend a ton of money on".  Well, I think she has seen the light (she is an Accountant and the $$$s do matter to her), bowling is not that bad compared to my other "hobbies"!
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Hamburglar

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Re: Is bowling really more expensive?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2004, 02:49:18 PM »
SoCalJr...

To tell you the truth, if I wasn't in the golf business I probably wouldn't play much golf at all.  The cost of the game has REALLY gotten ridiculous over the last 8-10 years.  When I first started in the business in the late 80s, you could get a whole set of woods for the cost of one driver now and irons were about half the price of what they are now.  Greens fees have also skyrocketed making it almost impossible for the average guy to play the really "good" courses.  Sure there are plenty of municipal/public courses to play that won't cost an arm and a leg, but unless you've got all day to play, they are not worth it...also, don't forget a hard hat if you play on some of those!
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