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Hannah G

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Is bowling this hard for everyone?
« on: April 24, 2008, 12:57:29 PM »
So I practiced a lot tonight.  I probably bowled 10 games or so tonight and I've concluded that it's one of those things that look easy, but is really difficult.  The entire time, I had to tell myself to bend my knee, bring my arm straight up, hit my mark, etc, etc, etc.  I'm about a 140 average.  I've bowled 2 summer leagues in my lifetime.  I did get a 192 today.  That's one of my higher scores.  I did notice my pin count is improving.  I need to work on spares.

So, is bowling this difficult for everyone?  

Oh...by the way...I did manage to beat 1oldhammer!  ha,ha  
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Re: Is bowling this hard for everyone?
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2008, 09:30:39 PM »
Bowling is more difficult than it looks. But each of us tend to struggle with the same bad habits over time. We fix them, but if we're not careful, we drift right back into them. It takes time and real effort to overcome some of our habits.
This is why it's important to work on SOMETHING each time we practice. Don't just throw game after game and reinforce bad habits. Once the concentration is gone quit for the day.


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Re: Is bowling this hard for everyone?
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 09:46:25 PM »
i know someone has a quote on their siggy that says something to the effect of, "bowling, an easy game made difficult by humans".  the big thing with bowling to me is that when you overthink it, bowling becomes difficult.  but when youre learning how to bowl really, its tough not to think of everything.  its best to go one step at a time.  for example, focus on accuracy and nothing else.  let the knee bend and armswing take care of themselves, just focus on your target.  make it habit forming first.  then you can work on something else, and make it habit forming next.  keep adding a new area to work on as the previous stuff becomes routine.  if something goes arwy, you can always revisit that area and get it back into the routine.
i hope this helps!  good luck!

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Re: Is bowling this hard for everyone?
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2008, 10:07:27 PM »
I have recently made some very big improvements in my game, and it's very interesting how little effort the game really takes.  I went to a coaching session taught by Mike Jasnau in Reno at last year's nationals, and he told me David Ozio and Carolyn Dorin Ballard were getting at least as many revs as me, probably more, and using half the effort and muscle.  When I broke down my game, and worked on just a couple things, everything seemed to click.  The things I focused on were lowering my backswing (mine is usually very high), lengthening the "flat spot" at release (if you don't know what this is, and want to know PM me), and trying to keep my armswing loose and relaxed.  3 things.  What I realized is for my game, if I do those 3 things, almost nothing else really matters.  Even if my backswing does wander a bit high, which it does out of habit, the longer "flat spot" is giving me more revs, and more area on the lane.  What this has done is allowed me to use balls that save more energy and carry better on easier house shots, and create just a couple more boards of area on tougher, flatter shots.  That extra couple boards can go a long way.  Anytime you have more area, and carry better you bowl with more confidence......one good thing leads to another, and another, and so on.  Looking forward to my next regional next month to see how this works in actual PBA competition.  Hope this helps, again, PM me if you want to talk more about it, or have any questions on anything.  Learning more makes the game more fun.

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Re: Is bowling this hard for everyone?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2008, 10:18:03 PM »
Please see THIS THREAD

The "Great" bowlers think the game is to easy for everyone...

So to them that 192 you shot today is just exploiting the typical house shot. That kinda attutude makes you wanna bowl more, huh ?
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Re: Is bowling this hard for everyone?
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2008, 11:12:55 PM »
The best bowlers are the ones who can tell themselves what they're goin to do before the shot, then not think about it while actually doing it. That's the biggest challenge in bowling in my opinion, the ability to not think while executing.

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Re: Is bowling this hard for everyone?
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2008, 11:32:46 PM »
It takes something like 1500 repititions for the action to become a part of muscle memory.  With that said, at first bowling is difficult.  You are working on teaching your muscles what they need to feel and do.  As others said work on one thing at a time, the more things you try to do at a time, the more complicated it becomes.  

When I coach novice bowlers I take it one step at a time.  As they master one thing, we move on to the next thing.
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Re: Is bowling this hard for everyone?
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2008, 11:59:10 PM »
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Re: Is bowling this hard for everyone?
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2008, 02:27:08 AM »
From what I remember, you've not been bowling long, so to be holding a 140 average is decent. You've also got good basic technique, it needs refinement, but then, whose doesn't?

The first thing I would say is that when practicing don't worry about the score. When you go to practice you should be concerning yourself with how you get the ball to the lane, not what happens once it gets there

If I was going to have a practice session of the length of 10 games, I'd probably pick 3-4 things to work on (I don't normally practice for that many games, but that's another matter). If you pick 4 things that you need to focus on, split your session up into blocks of 2.5 games each and in each block devote all of your energies to thinking about and focussing on the one point (be it knee bend, back more upright, accuracy, etc.) for each shot in that block. Then move through them in order, I would suggest if you're going to do accuracy work, it's a good idea to put that last, as this is when it's going to be the hardest.
Congratulations on the 192 though

And in answer to your question, it's difficult in the beginning, like a lot of things. If it wasn't difficult, it wouldn't feel as good when it got easier (and it will )

In my mind, that's the aim of the game, make it look as easy as possible...
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Re: Is bowling this hard for everyone?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2008, 02:48:43 AM »
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Bowling is more difficult than it looks.


Yup! The hardest thing to come by is the fact that many players tend to do and repeat what comes natural. They feel comfortable with their movements, but only in rare cases the timing and overall mechanics are correct. Lots of practice might worsen things, since repeating flaws only strengthens them.

That said, it is always good to have external help, to get the basics right from the beginning. Some things will feel very awkward at first, and it takes a lot of concentration and consciousness to avoid falling back into old bad habits - e. g. a different body position, the way you hold the ball throughout the swing, the point where you release the ball, etc. Small things, but getting these puzzle pieces right step by step and over a longer period of time will make you (and anyone else) IMHO a "better" bowler.

Wonders just do not happen over night, and from my experience you will need someone else with an educated eye to work on your game - and if it just during training.

Keep it up, you have the right mindset to improve, and be patient.
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Re: Is bowling this hard for everyone?
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2008, 03:02:33 AM »
I think you're doing well, from the sounds of it!

I've been bowling 15 years and I still have times when I think 'this is really hard!'

Just keep plugging away and most of all enjoy it - the more you play, the easier it will become and things like bending your knee will eventually become second nature and you'll do it without thinking.

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Re: Is bowling this hard for everyone?
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2008, 06:57:02 AM »
On your strike shot, you're trying to hit a spot 60 feet away from you that is only an inch or so wide, and you have to hit it at the right angle with the right combination of ball speed and rotation.

Holy crap, bowling is incredibly hard to do well when you think about it.

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Re: Is bowling this hard for everyone?
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2008, 07:06:32 AM »
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On your strike shot, you're trying to hit a spot 60 feet away from you that is only an inch or so wide, and you have to hit it at the right angle with the right combination of ball speed and rotation.

Holy crap, bowling is incredibly hard to do well when you think about it.


Yup. Sometimes, when I watch the ball go down the lane, I am amazed, too, how much control is actually needed to hit a certain spot on the lane - including oil pattern influences and the like. Knocking down the pins looks so simple, and the game in itself might be primitive. But the proper execution is a rather tough thing. Sad that this "image" of bowling is not present in the public mind.
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Re: Is bowling this hard for everyone?
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2008, 07:28:18 AM »
Its funny I get told all the time how "easy" I make the game look.  Well let me tell you it is not.  I tell people who say this, including my 145 average wife, to think about this...I have been bowling since I was 5 years old that is 37 years.  I throw, in league, an average of 250 games per year.  That is somewhere around 10,000 games in my life so far +/- a thousand or so.  After that many games my muscles memory just goes through the motions.  I still occasionally let my brain get in the way and throw a real "stinker" of a game.  I did it twice this year alone a 135 and a 139.  The real key is to not think about how hard it is but to think about how much fun you are having.

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Re: Is bowling this hard for everyone?
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2008, 07:45:16 AM »
Right. To steal a slogan: "Just do it!" Believe in what you do, be sure you achieve it, and... just do it. Overthinking can be deadly. Bowling is IMHO no game of hesitation, rather of straightforwardness (which does not exclude a certain rafinesse in execution and lane intelligence...). And it is fun - or should be - after all. I sometimes get the impression that it gets a bit too serious...
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