Author Topic: Is changing your release just too hard? (Read 2346 times)

Aloarjr810 · « **on:** October 10, 2009, 04:48:57 AM »

I've noticed that lately theres been more and more posts about "My ball hooks too much" and they ask "what to do?".

You get the same replies "Get a ball", "Change the layout", "Put super magic secret polish sauce elixir on it".

Then you get "Try changing your release" all of a sudden the atmosphere seems to change. Like in one post someone said something like "I'm tired of hearing about changing your release".

Has trying to adjust your release become passÃ©? Just too hard to do?

"Try changing your release" use to be the first thing everyone would tell you to try.

BrunsMike · « **Reply #1 on:** October 10, 2009, 01:27:41 PM »

I''ve noticed this too. It''s still the 1st thing I suggest is to change youre release to tame down the revs on the ball. Doing all the other stuff is not always fesible with the way this economy is. Who has money to blow at buying a new ball, or having it plugged and redrilled only to mess with the ball another several games to get the release to feel right again which in turn could mess with your bowling, and doing secret polish is probably the next best option and do agree with this method.

If I posted a topic of "my ball hooks too much, HELP" and someone said for me to buy a new ball or change the layout Id respond back with "I dont have that kind of money to waste for a new ball or a layout change."

Thankfully when I was younger bowling in a youth leauge a coach pulled me off to the side and taught me the importance of using different releases. I have at least 6 hand positions that I have at my disposal. Whats cool about having all of these hand positions is I can make just 1 of my balls react several different ways making that 1 ball essentially become 3. So instead of just 2 balls in my bag I really have 12 when used with certain hand positions.

Im sure someone is going to say Im a retard and that its not possible.
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no300tj · « **Reply #2 on:** October 10, 2009, 01:40:17 PM »

I can get 10-12 boards difference in overall hook from my least to most releases. I have 3 that I am best at and a few others that are a work in progress. Any one that wants to score all the time needs to be able to manipulate ball reaction.
I know some people that can't and if they run out of balls and still haven't found what works, they just complain instead. I'm not the best bowler, but I do have a few tricks up my sleeve that give me confidence when others ore fishing.
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Roto_Ryan · « **Reply #3 on:** October 10, 2009, 02:04:06 PM »

I think the biggest thing I see is that the game is now about who is most prepared (Most balls, cover every condition, have every possible layout etc. etc.) I think the big deal is some people feel that by changing their release to something they arent as skilled with because of lack of practice or whatever, they wont compete against people who use their best release and line and match a ball or layout so that they can play that. Just my opinion but Im much more likely to change release then ball. So I'm with you I just see maybe where people are coming from.

PLM · « **Reply #4 on:** October 10, 2009, 02:28:36 PM »

Perhaps the reason people complain about making release changes is that it is difficult to do. I have 3 different ones that I use- 2 often and another occasionally - so I see the value of it, but it is difficult to get consistent with all of them unless one does a lot of bowling. I use 1 of those only as a last resort and am not that consistent with it. For the average bowler (myself included), it may be easier on a house condition simply to pick up a different ball as the lanes start to transition than it is to move inside and change your hand position (and maybe even speed as well).

jwcorn01 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 10, 2009, 02:45:11 PM »

I would assume that the poster has already attempted to change his release...

Aloarjr810 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 10, 2009, 03:53:28 PM »

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I would assume that the poster has already attempted to change his release...

Theres no "attempting" about it. I change my release as I need it.

Now "PLM" mentions consistency in doing a different release that can be true. You need practice.

But why stand there for 1 or 2 or even 3 games struggling, throwing it the same way every time and you see it doesn''t work.

When you could do something say as simple as not cupping your hand.Throw it the same way, Just hold the ball with a straight firm wrist. Or Instead of cocking your wrist, leave it uncocked.

Even if your not consistent at it. You can''t do much worse and it might help.

As for having different balls, what happens when changing balls doesn''t work? I don''t know if anyone else ever saw this type of thing.

But I''ve seen bowlers with 4-5-6+ balls, go through all of them before the end of the 1 or 2nd game. They throw them all the same way and they are lost.

Edited on 10/10/2009 3:54 PM

Aloarjr810 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 10, 2009, 04:27:30 PM »

Sometimes I think theres a perception problem, with how bowlers think the ball should look going down the lane.

They think if they back off the ball and they don't see that big booming hook drilling the pocket, they feel their not scoring well or as good as they should be.

kidlost2000 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 10, 2009, 04:55:56 PM »

A lot of people in bowling today come into the sport all trying to throw the ball like Tommy Jones and spend all of there time in learning how to get the maximum hook possible on the ball. In the process they usually have bad form and other bad habits as well usually all revolved around trying for maximum hook.

When I started bowling I threw the ball with low to medium revs playing up the boards and slowly from there learned to hook the ball more. From practice and playing on different conditions with other friends from junior bowling we learned how to throw/release the ball a few different ways.

Today that isn't the case as much. I also noticed that there are a lot of bowlers out there good and bad that throw the ball one way, and one way only.
To me the more you are able to do with the ball and adjust on the lanes the better.

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BrianCRX90 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 10, 2009, 05:15:35 PM »

Nah, many on this board don''t want to change or even try it thus becoming a very un-versatile bowler.

Edited on 10/10/2009 5:18 PM

ccrider · « **Reply #10 on:** October 10, 2009, 10:33:48 PM »

Really, how many different releases do you have to have for the THS.Those who grip it and rip it score higher on it, and they have only one release. I think it all depends on what you are bowling on.

If your goal is to score high on the THS, learn to grip and rip. You will be ok. If your goal is to learn the game, and ideally to master it, then more then one release must be learned and mastered.
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DON DRAPER · « **Reply #11 on:** October 11, 2009, 06:02:57 AM »

in todays game changing releases is almost an afterthought.......most players will change balls. the more releases you have the more versatile your equipment becomes. the downside is that learning a new release takes practice and time......plenty of it.

Moon57 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 11, 2009, 06:52:56 AM »

I think that the position and orientation of the forearm and elbow is probably more important than the release. If a person doesn't stay behind the ball they aren't going to be very successful in changing releases. After I read Joe Slowinski's article on using a backup ball drill to teach yourself to stay behind the ball and keep your arm and elbow in the right position I found it much easier to tweak my release. I'm still not consistent yet but I seem to be much more aware of where my hand is at the point of release. If someone can't tell where their hand is at release there's not much sense in trying to change.
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leftyinsnellville · « **Reply #13 on:** October 11, 2009, 07:48:20 AM »

Changing my release is easy...I do it on every shot. Not intentionally, but that's beside the point.

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Aloarjr810 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 11, 2009, 08:20:20 AM »

Well I''m getting the impression that Yes, its too hard. Its good if you can, but its too much trouble to learn for most. Simpler to just buy another ball.

Yeah Moon if they dont know or can''t do the basics, like keeping the arm straight and tucked in. No point bothering with the release.

Edited on 10/11/2009 8:21 AM

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