Author Topic: is dynamicore all hype or the real deal? (Read 21869 times)

michael.willis9 · « **on:** August 16, 2019, 12:00:15 PM »

Now thats been out for a little while, i was wondering what everyone thought of it. Videos on youtube seem to like it but i also think some of those in the videos have deals with said companies that use it.

I was looking at the new Hero or the OG prowler but wanna know if its worth it

SVstar34 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 16, 2019, 12:14:52 PM »

I'll put it this way. Dynamicore is much like Columbia's HyperShock technology

Do I think it changes carry percentage? Yes. I've definitely tripped out buckets/half-buckets/double wood more than I ever have in the past. Carried some bad shots I thought were easy Flat 10s or light 7-10.

Is it something I look for as a priority when buying a ball? No. Reaction and fit are priority for me, Dynamicore is just a plus on top if it's there. I've definitely recommended more balls with Dynamicore those with slower ball speed though.

Bowler19525 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 16, 2019, 01:08:45 PM »

"Technology" such as Dynamicore claims to increase a bowling ball's Coefficient of Restitution. However, the USBC sets limits on how much CoR a ball is permitted to have. It must be in a range of 0.650 - 0.750. So unless balls without Dynamicore or Hypershock, [or whatever manufacturers choose to call it] are being made to the minimum requirement, the overall effect of these "energy transferring" materials being used in some balls is most likely negligible at best. Is an increase in CoR of 0.100 really going to result in a significant increase in pin carry?

I am a huge fan of Brunswick/Radical/DV8 equipment, but I couldn't care less if a ball has Dynamicore in it or not. I am looking more at coverstock type, surface prep, and RG/Diff numbers when I decide on a ball. Choose the ball that best fits what you are looking for. If it happens to have Dynamicore, then so be it. If it doesn't, you probably won't notice a bit of difference.

If Brunswick really wants to demonstrate the "benefits" of Dynamicore, they could do a ThrowBot video where they take a ball such as the Hero and have one made with Dynamicore and one without. Put them in ThrowBot with the same layout and on the same lane condition and see if there is a real difference in pin carry over the course of a game or two. People would love to see that.

BowlingForDonuts · « **Reply #3 on:** August 16, 2019, 01:18:04 PM »

Quote from: Bowler19525 on August 16, 2019, 01:08:45 PM

"Technology" such as Dynamicore claims to increase a bowling ball's Coefficient of Restitution. However, the USBC sets limits on how much CoR a ball is permitted to have. It must be in a range of 0.650 - 0.750. So unless balls without Dynamicore or Hypershock, [or whatever manufacturers choose to call it] are being made to the minimum requirement, the overall effect of these "energy transferring" materials being used in some balls is most likely negligible at best. Is an increase in CoR of 0.100 really going to result in a significant increase in pin carry?

I am a huge fan of Brunswick/Radical/DV8 equipment, but I couldn't care less if a ball has Dynamicore in it or not. I am looking more at coverstock type, surface prep, and RG/Diff numbers when I decide on a ball. Choose the ball that best fits what you are looking for. If it happens to have Dynamicore, then so be it. If it doesn't, you probably won't notice a bit of difference.

If Brunswick really wants to demonstrate the "benefits" of Dynamicore, they could do a ThrowBot video where they take a ball such as the Hero and have one made with Dynamicore and one without. Put them in ThrowBot with the same layout and on the same lane condition and see if there is a real difference in pin carry over the course of a game or two. People would love to see that.

+1. Even 2 piece carry can be overrated I believe (tend to do well with them though so still a fan). I think the higher RG retaining energy has as much to do with it as no filler.

michael.willis9 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2019, 01:57:17 PM »

thanks guys, this has been helpful.

I currently have an After Dark Pearl, Hyroad Live (overseas version of OG hyroad), turmoil solid and a Halo pearl.

So i have a nice big gap inbetween the turmoil and the hyroad, but i also am generally throwing the hyroad and AD Pearl for most nights on house.

i was looking for something with a little more gitup than the hyroad

milorafferty · « **Reply #5 on:** August 16, 2019, 04:11:33 PM »

HYPE.

Anyone who claims different is either gullible, staffer or silly fanboy.

Walking E · « **Reply #6 on:** August 16, 2019, 08:38:01 PM »

I don't have any Dynamicore balls but I do have one Hypershock Columbia ball. I do get some impressive messengers and on dead flush hits it just makes a louder crack at the pins than my other equipment. That being said, that ball can also flat 10 with the best of them. Overall I'd say it hits marginally harder but not enough to overcome bad angle and matchups. I'm certain that it's the same story with Dynamicore.

milorafferty · « **Reply #7 on:** August 16, 2019, 08:51:12 PM »

Louder crack has been claimed by every manufacturer since I began bowling.

Impending Doom · « **Reply #8 on:** August 16, 2019, 09:08:11 PM »

Quote from: michael.willis9 on August 16, 2019, 01:57:17 PM

thanks guys, this has been helpful.

I currently have an After Dark Pearl, Hyroad Live (overseas version of OG hyroad), turmoil solid and a Halo pearl.

So i have a nice big gap inbetween the turmoil and the hyroad, but i also am generally throwing the hyroad and AD Pearl for most nights on house.

i was looking for something with a little more gitup than the hyroad

Volt!

Walking E · « **Reply #9 on:** August 16, 2019, 09:30:38 PM »

Quote from: milorafferty on August 16, 2019, 08:51:12 PM

Louder crack has been claimed by every manufacturer since I began bowling.

Of course they do, but those were my ears noticing the noise. I'm not a Columbia honk.

calebg1981 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 17, 2019, 03:37:20 AM »

Quote from: michael.willis9 on August 16, 2019, 01:57:17 PM

thanks guys, this has been helpful.

I currently have an After Dark Pearl, Hyroad Live (overseas version of OG hyroad), turmoil solid and a Halo pearl.

So i have a nice big gap inbetween the turmoil and the hyroad, but i also am generally throwing the hyroad and AD Pearl for most nights on house.

i was looking for something with a little more gitup than the hyroad

I don't know what the hyroad is like but I can tell you the hero is a skid flip piece that actually played pretty strong for me. The OG prowler is a little more tame and really only comes into play for me after a few games and the lanes dry up.

BowlingForDonuts · « **Reply #11 on:** August 17, 2019, 04:10:25 PM »

Quote from: calebg1981 on August 17, 2019, 03:37:20 AM

Quote from: michael.willis9 on August 16, 2019, 01:57:17 PM
thanks guys, this has been helpful.

I currently have an After Dark Pearl, Hyroad Live (overseas version of OG hyroad), turmoil solid and a Halo pearl.

So i have a nice big gap inbetween the turmoil and the hyroad, but i also am generally throwing the hyroad and AD Pearl for most nights on house.

i was looking for something with a little more gitup than the hyroad

I don't know what the hyroad is like but I can tell you the hero is a skid flip piece that actually played pretty strong for me. The OG prowler is a little more tame and really only comes into play for me after a few games and the lanes dry up.

Hy-Road is a weaker black quantum that reads the mid lane a bit better and at least for me hits better as well.

JohnN · « **Reply #12 on:** August 18, 2019, 10:56:35 PM »

I have a Pitbull Bite (no dynamicore) and a Pitbull Bark (dynamicore) and I don't notice any carry difference. Maybe I'm not good enough. I did leave several solid 9 pins (lefty) with the Bark in summer league.

Ed at C and R · « **Reply #13 on:** August 19, 2019, 07:43:58 PM »

Hype.

Take two different shaped cores, but with the exact same numbers, say 2.50 - 0.042, use the same cover stock, drill them identical and have ThrowBot do it's thing. All things being equal, they should roll identical. Numbers are numbers, science is science.

There is no magic core or cover stock. A core defines spin (early spin, late spin), the cover stock defines length, the bowlers axis rotation, axis tilt and speed define everything else. It's the magic combination of a particular core and cover that matches your physical game that makes a ball special.

BrunsNick · « **Reply #14 on:** August 19, 2019, 11:46:58 PM »

Different shapes = different after drilled numbers.

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