OK, I started on Beginners board, because wife and me is new to bowling. I got much good advice about ball choice for wife and me.  My wife, she got pretty ball called Scout.  I got used ball from friend called, Rhino Pro.  Very old ball, but that's OK, it's better than alley ball and not cost much.

But I follow advice about getting grips (I like to call them tubes) so that I can curve ball like other bowlers.  But even though they not hurt as much as when I used alley ball, my finger still hurt, near fingernail.  I ask for more help in Beginners board, but no answer.  So, I take tubes out and bowl with only fingers, but I don't like feeling and fingerholes are too wide for fingers.  Is there any other thing to use instead of tubes that make fingers not hurt?  My wife also, she break finger nail on one finger and blame me for getting tubes for her ball.  Need help, please.

IMO, the key to making hooking the ball look easy is the time gap between when the thumb exits and the fingers exit.  The longer this gap is the more revs are imparted on the ball.  Try to get the feeling of the ball rolling off your hand like a softball or football would.  Your thumb exits, the weight of the ball transfers to your fingers then the fingers rotate and release.  --  JohnP

OK, so I went back to pro shop owner and he going to put tubes in upside down and we see if this works better.  Than you for advice.  He no charge me to help me.  But wife not interested in tubes no more.  Doesn't matter if upside down or not.  Now, she really want to look at something else.  So, I email company that makes this griips glove you talk about and I ask some questions.  Very fast answers they give me and very helpful.

I explained my problem.  This company also give me some same advice you give me.  I surprised.  They not try to make me buy their griips glove, but want to help me bowl better with no pain.  They say maybe griip glove is good answer, maybe not.  Company sound honest, but still cost too much.  They also say their company boss write story about fingers being very important. They give me link to story on online pro shop store.  I tried to read the story, but could not understand all story because of English.  But I think I understand enough. Maybe real bowlers can understand more than me about story.  This is link:

http://www.bowling.com/bowling-blog/bowling-tips/the-most-overlooked-weapon-in-your-arsenal/

Maybe somebody can read this story and tell me if it make bowling sense.  I don't want to buy this griip glove if no make sense.  Price is much better than company price, but I don't want to buy if you think that no need for this.  For now, I try some of your advice and talk more with pro shop owner.  But wife, she not interested in more talk.  She want to bowl but also not want to break off other nail.  Have to do something for her now.  Some advice, please?  Thank you much for always kind help.  Everybody here is good bowle I think, because some things you say, I don't understand, but sound good, I think. 

Quote from: MI 2 AZ on February 01, 2013, 06:47:10 PM

Much as I hate to do this (not because the product is bad but because of the troll attacks that occurred) - this almost sounds like a Griips Glove opportunity.  Anyone who has experience want to comment?

I find it hard to believe you opened this can of worms again.  I can't believe anybody is buying this story.  Call me a cynic but c'mon. 

I have to agree, the spelling and punctuation is just a little to good for this bad of English. I didn't want to think its true but I have my doubts.

I was very suspicious a couple days ago about where this post was headed. I decided to remove my post and move on.

OK, I talk to pro shop owner.  He put tubes in upside down and told me to try this way.  He watch me when I bowl.  He see my hand come over top of ball because I try hard to knock down pins.  He show me how to keep hand under ball to roll better.  My finger nail not hurt after 3 games yesterday.  I tell wife try same thing, but she don't want to.  But after she see I have no pain, she then try tubes upside down.  But pro shop owner say her nails too long anyway to bowl right way. He also say he give me and wife 2 free lessons if we try what he say.  We say OK.

Anyway, I try this way some more.  No need to spend money yet on other stuff.  Maybe we can use money instead on own shoes.  He have sale on old shoe models.  I don't remember name though.  I find out and ask you, please about shoe and price.

Much thank you for your help always.

Anyone with nails longer then quarter inch will sometimes have problems with breaking their nails. Most female bowlers that I've seen usually keep their nails trimmed close so they don't break. If she wants to bowl shorter nails are the sacrifice. My wife also learned this problem as well. She no longer bowls because of it.

Me and wife visit pro shop owner again, this time about shoes.  I think maybe better to spend money on own shoes.  He say he sell me and wife some shoes for special price.  Anybody know about Elite Selena White and 3G Kicks?  He say sell me shoes for wife for 19.99 and my own shoes for 24.99.  Is this good shoe and good price?  Shoes look pretty, but we don't want to buy cheap shoes no better than alley shoes.  Again, much thank you for help.

Even the less expensive shoes will be better than the alley shoes. For one thing, no one else's feet have been in them. Be sure to get shoe covers. You can get by with one pair, just need to cover your slide foot for each of you.