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Author Topic: Is it possible for us to get a consensus for defintions on heavy, medium and dry on this board?  (Read 1543 times)

txbowler

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For some bowlers, dry means, I cannot throw my Nano anymore.  For others, it means my XXXL starts checking up at 30 feet.  For sake of discussion going forward like we have done for reviews, can someone suggest some standards for defining heavy, medium, medium and dry conditions?
 
 



 

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So when the manufacturer's say a ball is for dry, medium or heavy, what rating system are they using?  Should we adapt the same?


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 Found this description of a Dry Lane!
 
One important consideration when choosing one of these three types of (Ball)construction is lane conditions. Dry lanes are lanes that are not oiled, and a urethane bowling  ball will react fairly well to these conditions and can be polished to  better control the hook. However, on oiled lanes, a reactive resin or  particle bowling ball will react better than urethane.
 
Heres where that came from. Some dodgy info LOL
 
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But by saying, " a urethane ball will react fairly well on these conditions", they're already contradicting themselves, whoever they are. I've seen plastic roll out at the arrows on unoiled lanes, but again unless you define all factors thoroughly, like the lane surface, you're mixing terms and environments so that there are too many unknowns.
 
Friction provided by the environment is one operative word: that's oil + lane surface.
FRICTION provided by the ball's surface and the bowler's ball speed is the other operative word.
 
Aloarjr810 wrote on 2/15/2012 12:55 PM:
 Found this description of a Dry Lane!
 
One important consideration when choosing one of these three types of (Ball)construction is lane conditions. Dry lanes are lanes that are not oiled, and a urethane bowling  ball will react fairly well to these conditions and can be polished to  better control the hook. However, on oiled lanes, a reactive resin or  particle bowling ball will react better than urethane.


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txbowler wrote on 2/15/2012 11:59 AM:So when the manufacturer's say a ball is for dry, medium or heavy, what rating system are they using?  Should we adapt the same?

Personally, this is why I've never been the first one to go out and buy a ball. If I get a ball from a manufacturer for free to try and write a review on, sure I'll pop 3 holes in it and see where it fits. However, if it's my own money I always make sure to purchase proven products for the reaction I'm looking for in the conditions I want it to perform on.


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+1 on this. That is the best way to go when spending money on any new ball. Only exception I made was when I bought my VG Nano. I was the first at the shop I go to in getting it. I liked it but the Defiant is a better match for me.
 



MrPerfect wrote on 2/15/2012 2:33 PM:

 






txbowler wrote on 2/15/2012 11:59 AM:So when the manufacturer's say a ball is for dry, medium or heavy, what rating system are they using?  Should we adapt the same?

Personally, this is why I've never been the first one to go out and buy a ball. If I get a ball from a manufacturer for free to try and write a review on, sure I'll pop 3 holes in it and see where it fits. However, if it's my own money I always make sure to purchase proven products for the reaction I'm looking for in the conditions I want it to perform on.



My arsenal (as of February 2012)
Heavy Oil: Roto Grip Defiant (solid): 3000 AB

Medium-Heavy Oil: Track 919C (solid): 3000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Ebonite Vital Energy (pearl): 4000 AB

Medium Oil: Hammer Brick (hybrid): 2000 polished 

Medium-Light Oil: Track 505T (solid): 4000 AB
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Heavy:
MOTIV Jackal Legacy
MOTIV Mythic Jackal

Med-Heavy:
MOTIV Trident Odyssey
MOTIV Forge Fire
MOTIV Covert Revolt

Medium:
MOTIV VIP ExJ Sigma
MOTIV Sigma Sting
MOTIV Pride Solid

Medium-Light
MOTIV Venom Shock
MOTIV Tribal Fire

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I personally like to go with length plus volume of oil.  A patter of 38ft with  27ml of oil will seem like a lot more oil than 42 ft with 17ml.  Get what you think is a good benchmark of medium oil ball.  Check it aganist the manufacturers ratings.  I personnaly like the ratings in bowlingball.com.  They have a "perfect score" rating system that compares balls "potential hook rating" with all other balls.  As one person said the drill, core, and coverstock combination can drastically affect the ball.  If you have a ball for medium oil, then you can drill it weaker and polish it and use it for dry lanes.  You can take the same kind of ball, drill it for agressive hook, put a rough sanding on it and use it for oilly lanes.  Oily, medium and dry lanes are more the individuals perception.  I went to the nationals last year and thought the lanes were medium oiled at most.  Several other bowlers thought they were heavily flooded.  I don't throw the ball as hard as I used to and now I have a lot more hand in it.  The balls I used to use for oily lanes, I cannot use any more.  Now I roll balls on medium lanes that other people consider dry lane balls.  I guess there is no numer answer to your question, it is mostly personal perception.


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Medium: C300 Outburst Pol / C300 Game Pearl
Light: C300 Scout Reactive / Brunswich Avalanche Pearl
 
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That would be me.  Team USA 38 feet proved that to me in the sport league this past summer.  Just couldn't handle it.
 



milorafferty wrote on 2/14/2012 6:56 PM:And you have people who can't tell the difference between dry lanes and a short oil pattern.


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300x800x3 (High 814x2)
Hi Avg 218 Cur Ave 214
Tweener-Cranker (14Mph 350Revs)
Heavy: Storm VG Nano 4000AB Pol / C300 World Beater Pol
Medium: C300 Outburst Pol / C300 Game Pearl
Light: C300 Scout Reactive / Brunswich Avalanche Pearl
 
14lb 15.5 mph at pins 325 Revs. Silver Coach, Ball Driller. In Bag:  Storm Pro-Motion, Hyroad X, Matchup, Code Red.