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Ringing10

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Is this legal?
« on: September 29, 2012, 01:23:01 PM »
Last week when I picked up my ball off the return I noticed a ball that was cracked all the way around from finger to finger. I asked the guy about it and he said it had cracked in his car over the summer but he didn't have time to go to the pro shop and buy a new one. The crack is about 1/8 inch wide all the way around the ball. Is this legal to use during league?
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Re: Is this legal?
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2012, 02:25:30 PM »
No, it's not legal! USBC states that all bowling balls be free of grooves or indentations of a specific pattern except for gripping holes and manufacturing logos/labels!
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Re: Is this legal?
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2012, 03:02:18 PM »
Not legal but I don't think you will have to worry about it for long...that thing will probably fall apart...

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Re: Is this legal?
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2012, 04:37:56 PM »
According to the USBC Rulebook, Chapter 7: Equipment Specifications and Certifications CAQ’s, page 115:

Can I use a ball with a crack in it?
If a crack is located within your track area, it is not permitted for use during USBC competition. A crack is defined as a narrow opening or crack of considerable length and depth usually occurring from some breaking or parting.

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So, if it is in the track area, it is not legal to use.

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Ringing10

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Re: Is this legal?
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2012, 05:39:21 PM »
So now the question is, what to do? He says it is the only ball he has and I don't really want to throw him under the bus. On the other hand, I think he can afford a new ball he said he doesn't have time to get one.Do I need the take it up with the president or secretary?
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Ringing10

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Re: Is this legal?
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2012, 05:41:40 PM »
Let me also say this is a small handicap league, not a big money league. He is a middle of the road bowler average wise.
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2012, 05:58:38 PM »
That's your call...I personally wouldn't worry about it...it's not giving him an advantage...but it IS against the rules.  You could always alert the league secretary or president and let them decide what to do.

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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2012, 06:06:24 PM »
Let me also say this is a small handicap league, not a big money league. He is a middle of the road bowler average wise.

You say that until he beats you or goes on a run of strikes. Lol! If he and afford to bowl league he can afford to buy a new ball. Bring it up with him and tell him its illegal, whether he can afford to or not, he can throw a plastic house ball for a while. If it splits in half what then? He would have to buy one anyways. Take to him, his team, and the league president. Not so much for competition sake, but ive seen the mechanic in the back when a balls cracked in half in the ball return. It aint fun and it aint pretty, and all because some cheap skate didnt want to replace a ball. There are ways around no time.
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Re: Is this legal?
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2012, 10:30:39 PM »
I am sure the proprietor or manager would love to hear about that ball rolling down the lanes.  I bet they would take care of it for you.

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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2012, 12:47:10 PM »
I did speak to him last night. He has bought a new ball, just waiting for it to come in and be drilled. Thanks for all your replies.
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Re: Is this legal?
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2012, 07:25:56 AM »
I have one I hadn't even thrown for 10 games.  Split all the way around. 
Naturally like 90% of my splitters from San Antonio!

Anyway I loved the reaction and kept throwing it!  It is beautiful on the lanes and hits like MUSH!

My Pro Shop operator told me if I want I could fix it!  But it would be a real big project but I can't find a replacement!

Anyone have a non split Columbia Hi Flare Scout reactive?

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Re: Is this legal?
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2012, 07:35:32 PM »
I agree that the ball is illegal according to USBC rules but I'll play the devil's advocate here and ask why you care and how his using this ball affects you? I doubt he's gaining an advantage over anyone using it. I'm the president of my league and I always wonder why some guys get concerned about things that make no difference to them. This is more a proprietors problem than a league problem!

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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2012, 07:54:26 PM »
While the ball may not give him a advantage. It could be affecting the other bowlers.
If the ball starts causing damage to the lanes or pins do to the crack, that would affect the playing surface and thus could affect their scoring.
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Re: Is this legal?
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2012, 08:34:41 PM »
I've taken care of our local lanes for 30 years and saying it could affect scoring conditions may be the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long time. I guess you've never bowled on old worn wood lanes before? Pins will not be affected any more than finger or weight holes affect them. The holes in a bowling ball can leave marks in the lanes if the lanes are wood but I don't see anyone complaining about them. Synthetics? Forget about it, they are nearly strong as steel. Think of a new excuse a bowler should be concerned. I still can't believe anyone would have the guts to tell the bowler he must get a new ball, except the proprietor.

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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2012, 09:26:11 PM »
Okay then if it won't ever affect the lanes or pins then I guess the proprietor has no right to say any thing either since it's not damaging his equipment.

Because why should he  quote: "get concerned about things that make no difference to them."



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