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FBM357

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It appears the majority of the Pro Bowlers prefer
« on: February 21, 2007, 12:17:39 PM »
resin over particle.  Why?  I rarely see particle thrown regardless of the pattern being supplied.  Am I the only one to find it odd?

What sayeth you?
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shelley

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Re: It appears the majority of the Pro Bowlers prefer
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2007, 08:21:37 PM »
There's a bigger variety during the week.  When Rash was on the the show in Baltimore, Ric said he was using a Mammoth a lot during the week.

On the show, you get four or five guys, so maybe only five or six different balls in total.  With the heat of the lights and the speed that they seem to dry out, particle balls wouldn't be very appropriate.

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Re: It appears the majority of the Pro Bowlers prefer
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2007, 08:29:15 PM »
shelley,

thanks for the explanation.  what about the heavier oil patterns?
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Re: It appears the majority of the Pro Bowlers prefer
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2007, 09:36:41 PM »
I think a lot of it has to do with the lights heating up and thining the oil for the TV sets, quite often they use different equipment on TV because it doesn't play the same as during the week.

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Re: It appears the majority of the Pro Bowlers prefer
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2007, 10:03:45 PM »
I agree with what most people have said.  You see more resin on tv because of the fact that the TV pair usually plays differently that the pattern did during the week, and they break down faster due to the lights.  During qualifying and match play, the pros use a variety of equipment...they use what is working at that moment.

I don't think they get paid more to use a company's newest release on TV...they use on TV what they think will get them the best look.  Malott used a Heat, i think it was, when he lost to Jones.  PBIII has an affinity for his Vapor Zone, Norm Duke doesn't always use Storms latest and greatest on TV...in fact he has been known to fall back on his beloved Ace.  Walter Ray, if I remember used a Total Annihilation on the show this year, when he moved in and hooked it.  When Barnes lost to Wes Malott at the Windy City Classic, he was throwing the original Action...definately not the latest release from Columbia.  Not trying to dig this in deep, but it kinda  bothers when people say that companies pressure bowlers or pay them more to use their latest and greatest on TV.  No pro bowler that makes TV is gonna use a ball that he/she doesn't match up with.  It would severely limit their chances of winning the title.  They use what they think they will be able to get to the pocket the best with....nothing more, nothing less.
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Re: It appears the majority of the Pro Bowlers prefer
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2007, 10:38:19 PM »
The overwhelming majority of pros group bowling balls into two different reaction categories.  High-Response and Low-Response.

High response are balls that react quickly to friction, low response is the opposite.  Since none of the guys on tour have a problem getting the ball to hook due to their revrates, when the lanes are fresher and the backends or gutters are a bit jumpy, they'll tend to use Low Response covers or weaker drills to fine tune the movement off of the end of the pattern.  Particle covers fit into this category.  When the lanes are tighter and they need a quicker motion out of the backend to avoid the ball coming behind the headpin, they'll use high response covers.  Some particle balls actually can fit into this category and every player is different.  That is just a general observation.

For myself, I find myself rarely using particle unless I'm playing direct on a shorter pattern or an extreme wet-dry.  Since I have a high speed and tend to shoot balls through the breakpoint, the particle is great for me to get the ball started up earlier on the lane and be smoother off the spot down the lane.
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Re: It appears the majority of the Pro Bowlers prefer
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2007, 05:10:22 AM »
a lot of it depends upon the oil pattern being used. at the regional level i see many players using particle balls on the 44' oil pattern.

FBM357

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Re: It appears the majority of the Pro Bowlers prefer
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2007, 07:34:13 AM »
how much of a difference is there between todays very low particle and resin balls?  I'm beginning to see particle balls becoming very close in reaction to resins
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Re: It appears the majority of the Pro Bowlers prefer
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2007, 09:28:23 AM »
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Walter Ray, if I remember used a Total Annihilation on the show this year, when he moved in and hooked it.


Even older: He was throwing a Ravage for that show.

WRW does use a fair bit of particle stuff.  The Revs he was using earlier this year in Reno is a particle pearl.  A few years ago when he was throwing a lot of Track, he was using particle balls most of the time (to be fair, most of Track's stuff was particle anyway and their high-end asymmetrics are very particle-biased).  Andrew Cain used an Ambush, a low-load particle pearl at the DW.

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Re: It appears the majority of the Pro Bowlers prefer
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2007, 03:26:56 PM »
a lot of bowlers around the country don't seem to see much oil when they bowl leagues and in some of their local tournaments. i found out the hard way that at the pba regionals that just because they post the oil pattern on the pba website that doesn't show you the thickness of the oil being used. newer synthetic lanes will usually use less oil as there's no real track worn in them yet. older synthetic lanes typically use more oil due to the increased fiction from wear and tear. certain styles of bowlers will also benefit from particle balls more than reactive balls. bowlers with higher ball speeds, spinners or bowlers with a very low track, etc.