Author Topic: Rev/Speed Matched bowlers, Pros and Cons (Read 1894 times)

stopncrank · « **on:** January 20, 2011, 09:47:10 PM »

I had a great discussion about my game with my ball driller yesterday. I top out at about 410 rpm's with 17mph ball speed. I do have higher than normal Axis Rotation. I'm wanting some feedback from you guys in regards to what you see as Pros and Cons of being Rev/Speed matched.

Also, for those who are matched, how do you approach drillings/surfaces for your stuff? This is all kinda new, as I havent had any technical feedback on my game in some time. Any opinions would be appreciated!!

Still taking your lunch money one strike at a time, just without a Mission in my bag....

laddog54 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 21, 2011, 09:08:11 AM »

I am more rev dominate but my theory is if you are rev/speed matched you have a greatest flexibility with equipment choice and drillings. With this being said if you also have the ability to change speeds and rotation a little it really gives you the ability to play any condition. Being rev dominate I have to watch certain aggresive drillings and balls and have problems on shorter/drier conditions so I really have to go to a B game or much tamer equipment.

ROTO GRIP - King of Them All

stopncrank · « **Reply #2 on:** January 21, 2011, 09:46:47 AM »

Lad, that correlates to what i've been seeing the last couple weeks. While I can play most anywhere with minor hand and speed adjustments, my carry seems to depend more on what piece im using in what area. I hardly ever struggle to get stuff through the heads, especially on the fresh. I also find that in tournaments lately, I really dont feel at a disadvantage till i have to move deep, then my carry suffers compared to true crankers.

Still taking your lunch money one strike at a time, just without a Mission in my bag....

charlest · « **Reply #3 on:** January 21, 2011, 10:21:09 AM »

I'll double that, IN SPADES. I find a lot of trouble getting balls that still hit, yet can be used for rev dominant players like myself, on light oil. It's a real balancing act. PLUS what works in one house doesn't work in the next due to several factors. Shot 723 on Tuesday with a brand new Red/Purple Backlash and then couldn't break 600 with the same ball on Thursday in a different house, with a similar light oil condition. Between 10 pins and 9 pins and 8 pins and few weird splits (pocket 7-10) it was a frustrating night. Arrgh!!

laddog54 wrote on 1/21/2011 10:08 AM:I am more rev dominate but my theory is if you are rev/speed matched you have a greatest flexibility with equipment choice and drillings. With this being said if you also have the ability to change speeds and rotation a little it really gives you the ability to play any condition. Being rev dominate I have to watch certain aggresive drillings and balls and have problems on shorter/drier conditions so I really have to go to a B game or much tamer equipment.

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stopncrank · « **Reply #4 on:** January 21, 2011, 10:38:42 AM »

charlest wrote on 1/21/2011 11:21 AM:
I'll double that, IN SPADES. I find a lot of trouble getting balls that still hit, yet can be used for rev dominant players like myself, on light oil. It's a real balancing act. PLUS what works in one house doesn't work in the next due to several factors. Shot 723 on Tuesday with a brand new Red/Purple Backlash and then couldn't break 600 with the same ball on Thursday in a different house, with a similar light oil condition. Between 10 pins and 9 pins and 8 pins and few weird splits (pocket 7-10) it was a frustrating night. Arrgh!!

laddog54 wrote on 1/21/2011 10:08 AM:
I am more rev dominate but my theory is if you are rev/speed matched you have a greatest flexibility with equipment choice and drillings. With this being said if you also have the ability to change speeds and rotation a little it really gives you the ability to play any condition. Being rev dominate I have to watch certain aggresive drillings and balls and have problems on shorter/drier conditions so I really have to go to a B game or much tamer equipment.

ROTO GRIP - King of Them All

"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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Charles, i really dont have a problem till i hit shorter/dryer patterns-especially in the summer when oil is scarce. it seems on these patterns when others can move extremely deep and wheel the whole lane or ball down, i actually see the same general reaction from most of my equipment. Lower end pearls seem too much on the back, and solids seem to give me a bit better control but hit like marshmallows lol. Also see this alot on tournament shots with dryer backends.

Still taking your lunch money one strike at a time, just without a Mission in my bag....

laddog54 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 21, 2011, 02:40:58 PM »

charlest wrote on 1/21/2011 11:21 AM:
I'll double that, IN SPADES. I find a lot of trouble getting balls that still hit, yet can be used for rev dominant players like myself, on light oil. It's a real balancing act. PLUS what works in one house doesn't work in the next due to several factors. Shot 723 on Tuesday with a brand new Red/Purple Backlash and then couldn't break 600 with the same ball on Thursday in a different house, with a similar light oil condition. Between 10 pins and 9 pins and 8 pins and few weird splits (pocket 7-10) it was a frustrating night. Arrgh!!

laddog54 wrote on 1/21/2011 10:08 AM:
I am more rev dominate but my theory is if you are rev/speed matched you have a greatest flexibility with equipment choice and drillings. With this being said if you also have the ability to change speeds and rotation a little it really gives you the ability to play any condition. Being rev dominate I have to watch certain aggresive drillings and balls and have problems on shorter/drier conditions so I really have to go to a B game or much tamer equipment.

ROTO GRIP - King of Them All

"None are so blind as those who will not see."
BowlingChat.net

Lately I have done some retooling to the game and the speed is up a little but the revs went up too. I have had a problem with if I want to use something like my Cell Pearl, Mission, 916AT or even Grand Illusion I have to start in around 20 and get the ball out to 7 which is not in my comfort zone. I don't my playing 20-12/10 because the head angle isnt so huge but the big balls won't hold that line and the tamer stuff needs to be farther out to react. So I have been using an Illusion, Orbit Ex or Orbit and playing 15 to 7 which gives my a nice controllable shot but carry is hit or miss, if I am light leave 10's and if I move more into the friction its a 9 pin. Thank God that most of the stuff I have been bowling lately is a sport shot and I can play down the track or in and tight.

ROTO GRIP - King of Them All

Edited by laddog54 on 1/21/2011 at 3:43 PM

charlest · « **Reply #6 on:** January 21, 2011, 05:45:04 PM »

stopncrank,

There are 2 solutions for drier lanes (as far as I have learned). One is to use a midler ball that gets more length AND has less backend (because the driness provides the backend), but also allows you to play straighter and stay in the dry. Typical examples are the Brunswick Slingshot and the Avalanche Urethane. Two is to use a ball that allows you to play deeper (3rd or 4th arrow as needed) and then use a ball that gets length buts also has a decent backend. Typical examples are the above mentioned Red/Purple Backlash and Storm Tropical Storm and Ebonite Hardball.

Both drillings and surfaces come into play here. Some balls do need to be modified, some are suitable as they come. The Motiv Recon RX-1 orange/solid may need polish (depending on your drilling, release and oil faced). Another solid light oil ball is the Visionary Blue/Green Centaur. I needed to adjust the stock 1000 grit US/CAMI surface to 4000 grit matte in one instance and to use 2000 grit + polish in another center. The Silver pearl Motiv RX-1 probably needs no surface adjustment over its stock 4000 grit + polish.

stopncrank wrote on 1/21/2011 11:38 AM:

charlest wrote on 1/21/2011 11:21 AM:
I'll double that, IN SPADES. I find a lot of trouble getting balls that still hit, yet can be used for rev dominant players like myself, on light oil. It's a real balancing act. PLUS what works in one house doesn't work in the next due to several factors. Shot 723 on Tuesday with a brand new Red/Purple Backlash and then couldn't break 600 with the same ball on Thursday in a different house, with a similar light oil condition. Between 10 pins and 9 pins and 8 pins and few weird splits (pocket 7-10) it was a frustrating night. Arrgh!!

laddog54 wrote on 1/21/2011 10:08 AM:
I am more rev dominate but my theory is if you are rev/speed matched you have a greatest flexibility with equipment choice and drillings. With this being said if you also have the ability to change speeds and rotation a little it really gives you the ability to play any condition. Being rev dominate I have to watch certain aggresive drillings and balls and have problems on shorter/drier conditions so I really have to go to a B game or much tamer equipment.

ROTO GRIP - King of Them All

"None are so blind as those who will not see."
BowlingChat.net

Charles, i really dont have a problem till i hit shorter/dryer patterns-especially in the summer when oil is scarce. it seems on these patterns when others can move extremely deep and wheel the whole lane or ball down, i actually see the same general reaction from most of my equipment. Lower end pearls seem too much on the back, and solids seem to give me a bit better control but hit like marshmallows lol. Also see this alot on tournament shots with dryer backends.

Still taking your lunch money one strike at a time, just without a Mission in my bag....

"None are so blind as those who will not see."
BowlingChat.net

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