Author Topic: Just need to vent (Read 3215 times)

Debina · « **on:** June 07, 2004, 10:36:13 PM »

OK, so last night before league, my pro shop guy comes out to the lanes where I'm organizing the paperwork for the evening and plunks down a brand new Storm Big Hit. He says, "Let me donate this to the league to raise money to increase your prize fund." After I recovered my powers of speech (never has anyone offered anything extra to our league), I thanked him a dozen times and we figured out the best way to go about doing a ball give-away at the end of the season. When the president and vice-president showed up, I discussed it with them, and we all agreed to have a quick meeting before league so that everyone could vote on the change.

Here's the option we chose ... Each bowler puts $1 in the kitty each week for the rest of the short season. It would amount to a total of $10 per bowler, which would add $320 to our prize fund (almost increasing our fund by 25%). We gather the bowlers together, explain the gift of the ball and the proposed give-away, and take the vote.

One guy ... who just happens to be the same guy who cursed me out two weeks ago because I asked him to move his bag and street shoes out of the traffic area in the settee ... votes no. End of discussion. It's not unanimous, so the ball goes back to the pro shop and the whole league is in a funk because this punk jerk chose to prove that's exactly what he is.

At first I thought that maybe he and his wife just couldn't afford the extra cash each week. Then, as the evening went on, I watched and learned. The cash being spent by that team was amazing. Four pitchers of beer, two pitchers of soda, full over-priced snack bar meals for him and his wife, endless dollars to the toddler for the video arcade, trays of more over-priced snack bar goodies in game three. It wasn't that he couldn't afford the extra buck, it was just that he's a punk jerk.

Fortunately, we have a lot of gracious people on our other teams who took the time to genuinely express their appreciation to the pro shop operator for his generous offer. It makes me so angry that one person can so easily destroy a good thing that would have benefitted everyone. The only bright spot was that punk jerk's team lost all four points for the night.

I'm done venting now. Sadly, writing this didn't make me feel much better about the whole situation.

Deb

MI 2 AZ · « **Reply #1 on:** June 08, 2004, 01:40:07 PM »

quote:
I'm done venting now. Sadly, writing this didn't make me feel much better about the whole situation.

If you're lucky, he reads this site.

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card79 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 08, 2004, 01:45:40 PM »

Deb-

Why not find another way to add to the prize fund. What we do on our ball give aways is we take a deck of cards and we set a price for each card we go around sell a card to every person that wants one then draw the half out of the bucket and the person with the other half wins. You may get one guy who puts 30 bucks in and one that puts nothing in, but you get the extra money for the prize fund and everyone is happy.

Andy
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MI 2 AZ · « **Reply #3 on:** June 08, 2004, 01:53:14 PM »

Andy,

I think the problem she had is that in order to change the prize fund, it had to have a 100% vote and with that one person in the league, that probably wouldnt happen. Perhaps Debina can clarify.
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card79 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 08, 2004, 01:57:39 PM »

Oh ok didn't get that part. How dumb do you have to be to not want to increase the prize fund?
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Debina · « **Reply #5 on:** June 08, 2004, 02:03:50 PM »

You hit the nail on the head, MI 2 AZ. The guy is going to vote against anything just because he can. The pro shop guy, president and I discussed trying a different approach and decided that any suggestion would be met with the one nay vote. This guy feels powerful. This is the first year punk guy's team has joined our league. He had the potential to be a small problem at the organizational meeting, but didn't have any real sway, so now he can just say no and have a huge impact since we're into the "100% vote needed to make any changes" rule section. Ah, well. I've lived and I've learned. I'll approach our generous benefactor prior to the start of fall season and bring up any give-away proposals at the organizational meeting where a majority alone can carry a vote.

Deb

Edited on 6/8/2004 2:03 PM

T Brockette · « **Reply #6 on:** June 08, 2004, 02:04:39 PM »

Deb,

Is there any way the league officers can make an
ammendment to the unanimous vote rule? If not how
about having everyone in the league wear t-shirts
that say " How many idiots does it take to lose
$325.00? Only 1 ". Hang in there.
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If you want to play, train your body.
If you want to win, train your heart.

mrfjmt · « **Reply #7 on:** June 08, 2004, 02:06:23 PM »

He may be a punk and a jerk, but he has a right to spend his money how he wishes. You put this to a vote, so you had to expect that someone might not go along with your plan.

Since the pro shop was kind enough to donate the ball to your league, why not just have a standard raffle for the ball, maybe something like $1 for one ticket, $2 for 3, $5 for 10? Any money you make from the raffle, no matter how much or little, will be that much more than you had before.

livespive · « **Reply #8 on:** June 08, 2004, 02:06:48 PM »

If everyone else in the league knows that this guy is a jerk,
just don't count his vote, and base his prize money on the amount
that would have been there before the increase.

If everyone knows he is a jerk, then he can't get others to disagree with you.

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mumzie · « **Reply #9 on:** June 08, 2004, 02:19:02 PM »

Great pro shop operator. What a great guy!
How about raising money to add to the sweeper fund? If that hasn't been published yet, you can still change that...
Or sell raffle tickets, and donate the $$ to the junior program? Or to the banquet fund? (same thing as the prize fund, but the $$ gets distributed equally through the league)

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Urethane Game · « **Reply #10 on:** June 08, 2004, 02:20:02 PM »

He likely is a jerk. However, why would I spend $10 on a chance to win a ball that only costs $100 drilled? If you take 325 divided by 10 teams and you are talking a 32.50 additional per team (approximate) assuming a relatively equal distribution. 4 player teams would net a little over 8 per player. So the net effect again is why would I spend even 2 bucks on an inexpensive ball that I may not even want?

Playing the devil's advocate.

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DP3 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 08, 2004, 02:31:10 PM »

How come no one thought about getting some raffle tickets, having a strip be a dollar, three strips for two dollars, 7 strips for 5 dollars and raffling the ball then donating the money into the prize fund. I know my school and other schools with bowling teams have done this at various leagues and tournaments. I know one school raised 700 bucks in raffle tickets by raffling off a Raging Inferno and a Monster Bruiser that were donated by the pro shop. That's a ton of profit.
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Debina · « **Reply #12 on:** June 08, 2004, 04:35:05 PM »

Thanks!

You all make very good points on both sides of the aisle. And I agree that my pro shop operator is one heck of a great guy! By the way, one thing I failed to mention is that he agreed to work a trade if the person who won the ball didn't want that exact ball. Like I said, he's tops in my book! I'm going to print out some of these options and take them along to league next week. Perhaps we can still make this a win for the overall league.

Thanks again!

Deb

SrKegler · « **Reply #13 on:** June 08, 2004, 05:13:49 PM »

If you read the rules, I believe it says that changes must be approved by 100% of the team captains, not 100% of the members.
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MI 2 AZ · « **Reply #14 on:** June 08, 2004, 05:38:03 PM »

I was thinking he was a team captain, but if not, it should pass. (Unless his wife is the team captain)
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