Author Topic: Just Venting (Read 2703 times)

debs130 · « **on:** February 26, 2005, 03:08:51 AM »

The other day, we needed to prebowl for our Family Affair league because the boys are bowling in an LIYBT on Sunday. There was no school and the house was packed with children, so we had them on either side of us. I was standing on the lane ready to start my approach, when the little girl next to us runs up and dumps her ball on the lane. (Before that, she dumped the ball on our lane, and we had to erase the frame.) I waited for her to come back, but she stood there and never left the foul line. I politely asked her mom to tell the little girl to come back. She never did, so I sat down with my ball in my lap and waited. The girl's mom had the effrontery to call the desk and complain about my attitude! They asked to be moved away from us! (Good riddance.)

The woman at the desk asked me what happened, so I told her. The desk lady told me that the mom said that they were small children and weren't expected to show any lane courtesy.

Is this how children are being raised today?

Debbie

a_ak57 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 26, 2005, 02:40:34 PM »

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The woman at the desk asked me what happened, so I told her. The desk lady told me that the mom said that they were small children and weren't expected to show any lane courtesy.

Is this how children are being raised today?

Debbie

I didn't read the rest of the replies so excuse me if I repeat anything.

Did you try to explain that it's not also for lane courtesy, but for the child's safety? If you have a good leg kick like me, or if the child wanders into your path during your delivery, the little girl could get hurt. Of course, the mother would probably sue you.
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You were reading my mind. I've come close to kicking a bunch of people (mind you, i was in my lane completely). Sometimes i guess people like to wander over when i'm going, so they can gasp when they realize that someone else is actually alive, and flinch when my leg goes out. I can't feel bad since it's not like i'm telling them to come over to my lane, but if i hit someone, i'd have to ditch my stuff and run or have my head sued off.

I don't like open bowling for that reason. If i do go, i wait until the little kids dump the ball, and rush my approach. That way, i can go (though my bowling suffers, making the entire thing useless) while they are standing there staring at the ball, and not worry about them deciding to come say "hello" (figuratively) when my leg's kicking out.
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Stjosephkid · « **Reply #17 on:** February 26, 2005, 03:57:17 PM »

I was open bowling once and it was only me and my friend on a pair with no one else in the entire 40 lane house. Then when a group of preteeners came in they bowled on the lane next to us, no problem right. My friend was starting his approach and a kid on the other lane cut ahead of him and started to walk to the side. This kid hit my friend and they both wound up on the ground. I never had a problem with open bowlers before, but fom now on I won't bowl next to any young kids, I'll ask to be moved.
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BAPS_Eric · « **Reply #18 on:** February 26, 2005, 04:30:22 PM »

As a league bowler we do have priviledges that open bowlers do not have.....and the house should always recognize that....because without league bowlers the house would be in shambles because open bowlers have NO CLUE what is going on most of the time.....and you obviously had to schedule the session with your league officers so they could be present to sanction the set....not to mention the house is supposed to keep a pair left and right of you open so things of this nature does not happen.....I think it is the house to blame on this one for not being prepared for your set of bowling....too many times I have opened bowled and the non-league bowlers beside me are CLUELESS to bowlers etiquite and I calmly explain it to them and if they still refuse to listen then I contact the front desk to let them know about it....because it would fall on them for not keeping a safe atmosphere for all bowlers....league and non-league alike.....I really think there should be people assigned a 6 lane area to make sure that this happens because if it doesn't then $$$$$$$$$ are going to change hands.....and to address the "We have a certain time designated for us"....that is what is supposed to happen.....If people want to bowl all the time then join a league....at least you get something back for it!!!!
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hotstoy · « **Reply #19 on:** February 26, 2005, 05:12:06 PM »

I understand your frustration, but I'm going to relate a couple of positive experiences. I bowl daytime leagues and the houses I bowl at are very careful to put open bowlers as far from the leagues as possible and even if they are very busy will always leave at least one pair between them. Also, the other day there were a couple of youngsters bowling with their mother and they were two pairs away and were waiting until our bowlers closest to them had bowled. At least one parent is trying to teach manners to her children.

debs130 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 26, 2005, 05:40:49 PM »

We've had a few positive experiences as well, with parents teaching their children to observe some form of courtesy, but the negatives have outweighed them.

What surprised me in this instance was that we had no bad words at all. When the child threw a ball down our lane and the parent apologized, we weren't angry at all. I recall telling the mom that "it was totally fixable and there was no problem."

Debbie

sdbowler · « **Reply #21 on:** February 26, 2005, 07:55:19 PM »

Baps in a theory having an open lane or even pair next to the league make up is what every center wants. Yes I believe centers need to cater a little more to the league bowler. Even the center that I use to work at. How ever more and more money is being made by open play. League play does not pay for all the bills. One of the centers I bowl at comes out and says that no make ups or pre bowling will be done on the weekends when other centers will allow. The reason why is because of the large amount of open bowl they have during that timeframe. Many of you want to blame the center for not allowing a lane or two on each side of the make up to be open. Or for not teaching open bowlers about lane courtesy. I want to know how many of you have worked in a center to know how busy it can be at times. To where there is no time to talk to anyone at all execpt the few minutes you have to assign a lane and give shoes out and then when they are done to collect the money. Just because we know lane courtesy does not mean that everyone does.
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mumzie · « **Reply #22 on:** February 26, 2005, 08:06:59 PM »

In our big scratch league a couple of weeks ago, the pair we were on broke, so we had to move to the "buffer" pair between the league and the open bowlers.
When we got down there, no one was on the pair next to us. Turns out, they'd bowled one game, then gone in the bar for 30 minutes, and then came out to bowl their next game. These were ADULTS next to us, who not only didn't understand lane courtesy, but were running all over the approaches - 3 and 4 people AT A TIME.
I went and spoke to the desk, but they said that since the other bowlers were on the pair before we had to move, they couldn't do anything about it. But "we think they're league bowlers, so they should be ok".
The team we were bowling are a bunch of hotheads, and so after the 3rd or 4th time they had 3 or 4 on the approach on the lane next to us, I went over and asked them to please take the celebration and jumping around off the approach, and into the settee area, because there were a couple of guys on the other team getting steamed...
They took it completely wrong, and got mad at me. So, every time I got up to bowl, 3 or four of them jumped around on the approach. GRRRRRR.......
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ThongPrincess · « **Reply #23 on:** February 26, 2005, 10:09:00 PM »

Seadive,

Sorry to disagree, but there are children ready to begin bowling before they are 7 or 8 without bumpers. My girls started bowling Juniors at 4 1/2 and 5 1/2. The center had no bumpers at the time. Yes they used 2 hands at first, but quickly switched to standing at the line 1 handed and eventually to a 4 step approach. One of the first things they were taught was lane courtesy.
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Overhand · « **Reply #24 on:** February 27, 2005, 10:06:27 AM »

Everyweek I run into (well, not RUN INTO) open play kids that don't know lane courtesy. Remember, these are the ones who might cause our numbers to expand.

I sit down with them and ask them how they're doing and then casually mention how lane courtesy saves lives. Because of attitudes today, you do have to use kid gloves...treat them with respect.

I have never had a bad reaction explaining this.

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While those at the desk should do some educating...

You really expect kids making $6.50 an hour to do this?

Perhaps a sign or something similar placed on the tables or hung from the scoring monitor explaining lane courtest.

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