1fife, 2 Fuze Eliminators were both 2-3 inch pins, The Snuffy ball didn't matter as it's a spare ball. I just bought the Apex and TPC but I'm not too worried about pin placement being really bad. My worst pin placements have been from buying direct from the ball companies using the PBA offers. The worst pin placement I can remember was a particle Vendetta with almost a 5 inch pin. My guy at Chicago's Bowling Store set it up the best he could and it turned out to be a lane recker, made some serious money with the ball.