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Danes07

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Keeping the thumb straight
« on: October 12, 2009, 04:15:30 AM »
I think one of my biggest problems right now is that fact that I have trouble getting my thumb out of the ball and it makes me kind of top the ball.  I think this has a lot to do with the fact that I've recently noticed that I "knuckle" the thumb hole.  I'm working on keeping my thumb straight and not allowing it to bend in the thumb hole.  I'm going to try making my thumb hole a little tighter so I don't feel like I have to grip.

Do any of you have any little tricks or things you do to keep your thumb straight in the thumb hole?

Anything would be appreciated, unless is sarcastic or useless to the topic at hand.

Thanks in advance guys
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Re: Keeping the thumb straight
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2009, 12:43:21 PM »
1.)  Oval thumb hole and shorter span w/ forward thumb pitch helps me from my old days of longer span and reverse.  Find this grip/fit much more versatile in ability to go from forward roll to side roll.

2.)  Magic Carpet

3.)  Vise IT.....I have two.....normal size and another which is over size with one more 1/2 side cut.

Tighter thumb has allowed me to use less muscle in arm swing and also more ball speed without grabbing at the bottom.  When I hear some of the situations on this forum I see a lot of these factors mentioned.  

I'd say look at your ball fit Danes07.  Get another opinion or two.
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Re: Keeping the thumb straight
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2009, 02:20:09 PM »
Danes, A snugger thumb hole like scotts33 says would help.  The other little drill I try to use is when I set my thumb in the ball, I push my entire thumb with pressure into the front of the hole like pushing a thumb tack into a cork board without flexing it at all.  When you put the forward pressure on within the confines of the thumbhole itself its hard to bend or knuckle the ball with the thumb because it wont come off very easily and if do I grab it or knuckle it with the thumb I know exactly what I did wrong right at tht moment and try to correct it next shot.

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Re: Keeping the thumb straight
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2009, 02:44:08 PM »
I am not a driller but I have discover the following. I will ask my driller to drill the thumb hole smaller. That will be to drill the bowling ball first at 59 and then at 61 half way down the thumb hole. I personally do the finishing of the thumb hole as oval. It is my thumb and I am the one to really know how the thumb should fit in the thumb hole.

The 59 drilling at the bottom half avoids my thumb not to be too loose and to wiggle. You are tapering the thumb hole. This avoids me to squeeze the ball or knuckle the bowling ball.

Keeping my thumb straight.

I hate drillers that take the sander and go crazy going up and down the thumb hole without asking first how you like your bowling ball thumb hole to be.

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Re: Keeping the thumb straight
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2009, 03:11:11 PM »
Your problem of topping the ball may be just the opposite of what you think it is. Your thumb may be getting stuck because your topping the ball. Throw a shot while keeping the crook of your elbow facing the pins, don't rotate your forearm, and see if your thumb gets stuck.
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Re: Keeping the thumb straight
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2009, 02:08:33 AM »
Two ideas:

First, I'd check Moon57's suggestion. It can be that the poor thumb exit is just the symptom of a release flaw that has its origins much, much earlier, e. g. a timing problem like fast feet, a bent upper body, lack of slide, etc. This can all result in a release where the ball is much earlier than the rest of the player, and naturally you have to cling to the ball or top it, just get everything in sync again - but with little power and lots of deviation potential.

Secondly, I'd check with which part of your thumb you are actually holding the ball. Is it the thumb "pad" (first digit) or do you hold the ball with your thumb's base, at the thumb hole rim? The latter can force you to apply a Kung Fu death grip, cranking the thumb. In this case, I'd suggest to experiment with tape to make the hole tighter (with a comfortable span that allows you to hold the ball with your flat thumb inside of the hole), or even consider a different hole shape.

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Re: Keeping the thumb straight
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2009, 09:10:56 AM »
IMO, if your thumb has to bend or knuckle to fit in the hole, then the span is too long.

Start with this.....Put your thumb ALL the way in the ball. Then use an ink pen to mark where the thumb and ball meet. Now take your hand out and put it in the ball like normall. If that mark you made does not sit even with the ball again, then the span is too long forcing the thumb out. After this gets worked out, you then can worry about pitches.
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Re: Keeping the thumb straight
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2009, 09:58:06 AM »
I am just going to throw this out there, you might want to try wearing a wristmaster type of support. I have been battling this kind of thumb issue, and the wristsupport seems to prevent me from squeezing the ball. You will also need to start tighting up you thumb hole. This advise is provided that you already have a properly fitted ball, and it is bad habit problem. I have tried most products on the market, including a thumb straight and the majic carpet. I not saying those don't work, but this is what worked for me.

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Re: Keeping the thumb straight
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2009, 10:24:33 AM »
I appreciate all the suggestions guys.  Last night I tried making my thumb hole a bit tighter, but that didn't really work.  Towards the end of the night, I tried putting a piece of the slick black tape on the backside of my thumbhole and  that seemed to make things a little bit better.

From time to time, even now I have thought about trying one of those WristMaster type braces.  I just have a hard time convincing myself to use one...call it ego or something like that.  If the black tape doesn't continue to make it better, I may just try one and see how things go.
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Re: Keeping the thumb straight
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2009, 10:42:14 AM »
quote:
I appreciate all the suggestions guys.  Last night I tried making my thumb hole a bit tighter, but that didn't really work.  Towards the end of the night, I tried putting a piece of the slick black tape on the backside of my thumbhole and  that seemed to make things a little bit better.

From time to time, even now I have thought about trying one of those WristMaster type braces.  I just have a hard time convincing myself to use one...call it ego or something like that.  If the black tape doesn't continue to make it better, I may just try one and see how things go.
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I used almost all the time for 2 years because of this.  Last year I decided to take it off and I throw the ball better now than I ever have.  I credit that all the the brace and getting me to burn in that memory of where everything is supposed to be at release.  I probably should have stopped using it long before that but it became almost a crutch and I just kept putting off trying to get out of it.  With that said I still would do it all over again the same way, it has helped me immensely.

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Re: Keeping the thumb straight
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Re: Keeping the thumb straight
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2009, 11:21:31 AM »
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Thumb Straight, see link below.  --  JohnP

http://www.bowlingindex.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BI&Product_Code=GR-ThStr&Category_Code=


John, have you used that?

I saw it the other day when I was looking online, but I don't know anybody that does use it or has used it.
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Re: Keeping the thumb straight
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2009, 11:30:11 AM »
An old trick I used to use was taking a piece of white tape and putting a small button on the back of it.  I would then insert and secure the tape so the button would rest at the first crease of my thumb or a hair above it.  This basically means that if you squeeze, you don''t let go of the ball because your thumb will catch the button.  You could also put it farther down the hole so it acts more like a Thumbs Up in the link that JohnP provided.

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Re: Keeping the thumb straight
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2009, 02:19:28 PM »
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From time to time, even now I have thought about trying one of those WristMaster type braces.


A wrist brace will not change the size and shape of the thumb hole. Nor will it make your thumb sit in the ball straighter. If you can put your thumb only in the ball and its straight, but when your whole hand is in there and its not, you should look elsewhere
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Re: Keeping the thumb straight
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2009, 05:11:41 PM »
I can keep my thumb straight when I put it in the ball and when I put my fingers in also.  My problem is that once I get into the swing, my thumb tends to bend, knuckle if you will, unconsciously.  To keep it from doing that I have to really think about it, and thus my concentration on other things can falter.
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