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xrayjay

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kegel training center
« on: September 21, 2011, 05:44:38 AM »
I was wondering if any of you here had the experience of going there to bowl, train, or just visit the place.

 

I am planning to go there some time this year, but mostly likely it'll be next spring. It'll cost me from $700-$1000 depending how many nights I stay at the hotel and if I choose the half day or the full day sessions. Right now, I'm going solo. But hopefully I can get some guys to go for the group lessons.

 

Anyway, I look forward in hearing anything about this place.....


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Re: kegel training center
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2011, 11:52:02 PM »
Addik,
 
Were you able to attend Ron Clifton's clinic in July?  I am not sure of his style but he has a lot of bowling knowledge.



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Re: kegel training center
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2011, 10:07:40 AM »

 Yeah, there's a 4-day camp going on next week at Henderson, NV from Oct. 3-6 with Couch, Kent, and others....$995 includes breakfast and lunch, 3 ebi balls, 2 shirts, and DVD..... It's closer to CA...but, it's during the work week.



Leroy Taylor wrote on 9/25/2011 10:14 PM:Mark Baker lives in CA. Not sure any coach could be any better. There are reasons so many of the top pros work with him. Quite likable and won't try to reinvent your style ...won't want you to be what you're not cut out to be.. Kegel is THE training facility. Mark is quite possibly THE coach. Check out the names of the coaches for his 'Dream Camp' in NV if you want to get excited!

 

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Re: kegel training center
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2011, 10:09:48 AM »

 I wanted to attend the Ron's clinic, but I was scheduled on that weekend in the hospital. we were short staffed, so calling is sick wasn't an option lol



r534me wrote on 9/25/2011 11:52 PM:
Addik,

 

Were you able to attend Ron Clifton's clinic in July?  I am not sure of his style but he has a lot of bowling knowledge.




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Re: kegel training center
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2011, 04:58:20 PM »
Hello all,

 

I wanted to share a few words to everyone.

 

All of the coaches, at the Kegel Training Center, base instruction on the biomechanical movements of the best players in the world.  In other word, we teach to the same picture and blueprint.  As with all coaches, each of us is different.  At the KTC, we have the great fortune of having the largest video database of professional and world-class players.  As such, we have a great responsibilitity to share our knowledge.

 

We want your experience to be excellent when visiting the KTC.  We are very proud of how much better bowlers become after receiving training in our Lake Wales facility.

 

We have Computer Aided Tracking as well as video (side, front, rear) and can put down any patterns that you want to bowl on during your stay.  And, our facility is the only one in the world in which you can change topography.  We have 2+ miles of changes under the lanes which allow us to flatten the lanes like no other place in the world.

 

My colleagues and I work hard on a day-to-day basis to create new knowledge.  We do this by challenging each other through discussion as well as research.

 

Bowlers come to us from all over the world.  And, we are proud of working with all of these visitors.  In the last week, I have worked with bowlers from Australia, Columbia, Tennessee and North Carolina.

 

We are also the site of the Webber International University bowling program.

 

You can learn more at the Kegel Training Center web site   http:www.kegeltrainingcenter.com

 

P.S., born2bowl2  - When did you visit us?  That sounds extremely uncharacteritic and I wanted an opportunity to ask a few questions and make a few comments.  It is likely that we made reference to the pattern.  I might have mentioned that the pattern had been bowled on previously and had transition.  This was not intended to diminish your success bowling on the pattern.  We are very serious about informing individuals about the state of the pattern as transition impacts ball motion greatly.  Highway to Hell transitions extremely quickly.  But, we haven't put Highway to Hell down at the Training Center much recently.  Most importantly, I apologize if you perceived my facial expression as "rolling my eyes" as I didn't intend any disrespect.  We just don't belittle accomplishment at the KTC.  Once again, I apologize if there was any misunderstanding. 

 

P.S.S., Crash7189 - I am sorry I pushed you in a direction that you didn't feel comfortable.  We try to make every effort to help each client meet their full potential and migrate to the most efficient way to bowl, based on biomechanical principles.  I hope that you will return to see us in the future.  Most often, it is easier to bowl with the changes that we recommend.  Although, it is a challenge to make changes and it requires work at home to cement the changes.

 

Joe Slowinski

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Re: kegel training center
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2011, 06:55:03 PM »
Welcome to BR Joe,

To answer your questions:

I was there January 5, 2011

When I saw your reply I dusted off the DVD I received from Kegel so I could be 100% accurate about what was said. So here is how the conversation went between you and Randy:

Randy: Joe, what was the shot here?

Joe, Highway to Hell

Randy: Highway to Hell....our version of the U.S. Open. That's what you are bowling on.

Joe: Yes 7 & 8

Randy: all this guy has done is strike for the last 2 and a half hours.

Joe: Well.....once you break that down I think it's pretty easy shot.

Randy: he's been all over. He's playing up 7/8 right now. Look at this (I strike). He was playing in around 17/18 a little while ago. Then he moved out to 5 to see what would happen and he started striking from there.

Joe: (hard to hear) sound like you say - that pair is hooking.......this is where you roll your eye and walk away.

Randy: he is making this Furious look like a million bucks.


That is how it went. Both me and my girlfriend noticed your facial expressions. I don't know how you meant it to come across but we both took it as a sign of disrespect.

I'm sure you are a nice guy but that is not how you came across that day.


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Re: kegel training center
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2011, 06:26:30 AM »
I see it on the calendar now.  You were here in 2010, a LH from Chicago.  I was working with a couple I have worked with many times. 
 



Once again, I am sorry for the misunderstanding.  Please accept my sincere apology about how I came across that day.  I am deeply sorry that I came across as disrespectful.  This really was not the intent.


 

The 70+ hour work weeks may have taken a toll on that day.

 

I hope to see you back at the KTC in the future.

 



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Re: kegel training center
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2011, 08:57:50 AM »
To Joe S . Joe I did learn a lot from you . I do use some of your principle's in my coaching.  You have made me a better bowler, as the other coaches I have seen. I know every one thinks there methods are the best as they should. I work with a range of students from the beginner to the high ave regional pro. The more I can learn form all the great coaches the better I can be as a Coach & a Bowler. I will never Say I know everything , I do want to learn  everything. Thanks For your Help when I was down at Kegel If I can ever get there again I will. In the past I have sent a couple of my Student to see you.  A good coach is open minded to there students seeking another opinions. Because it can only make me a better coach.  My issue when I was at Kegel I have Arthritis in my hands, I could not get my hand do what you wanted it to do because of the shooting pain thru my wrist & hand when I would bowl. I did say kegel was worth the money . If anything I say what i feel in black & white no BS You did help me a great deal.  All I meat to say is Joe believes in his methods and will push you to do them which you should . But Bowling should not hurt is what i meant to get in my case.

 

thanks again



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Re: kegel training center
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2011, 09:12:22 AM »
Ron's clinic in Woodland was first rate. It was fully booked, so there might be a possibility of getting him back out here to Northern Ca soon. Lonnie and Diana Cavins set up the clinic for Woodland, so you might be able to get your local proshop to do the same.
 
 
xrayjay wrote on 9/26/2011 10:09 AM:

 I wanted to attend the Ron's clinic, but I was scheduled on that weekend in the hospital. we were short staffed, so calling is sick wasn't an option lol



r534me wrote on 9/25/2011 11:52 PM:
Addik,

 

Were you able to attend Ron Clifton's clinic in July?  I am not sure of his style but he has a lot of bowling knowledge.




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Re: kegel training center
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2011, 07:01:55 AM »

 





WIU_Bowling_Coach wrote on 9/29/2011 6:26 AM:
I see it on the calendar now.  You were here in 2010, a LH from Chicago.  I was working with a couple I have worked with many times. 

 






Once again, I am sorry for the misunderstanding.  Please accept my sincere apology about how I came across that day.  I am deeply sorry that I came across as disrespectful.  This really was not the intent.



 


The 70+ hour work weeks may have taken a toll on that day.


 


I hope to see you back at the KTC in the future.


 


 

Hello Joe,


 


You are somewhat correct. The LH from Chicago was my girlfriend, which also was being coached by Randy.


 


I fully accept your apology and I understand how a long workweek can affect a person.


 


I must admit that I left the training center with a negative impression of you but I truly appreciate your apology and I hope to return to Kegel soon.


 


Thank you,


Gil




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Re: kegel training center
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2011, 10:40:10 AM »
so if alot of bowlers who dont have the time or money to travel around to bowl tournaments or regionals shouldnt go to kegel? someone please explain this to me. i know a THS isnt the hardest thing in the world but you still have to make shots consistantly. i have yet to bowl on a house shot where i had 10 boards jus to spray the ball across...I had been thinking hard about saving to go to kegel but with the negative comments coming from a few people in this post, i dont see why i would "waste" my time. sorry that the bowler who bowls every year week in week out, wants to be competitive but doesnt have the time to bowl on sport shots is the dirt on your shoe...


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Re: kegel training center
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2011, 10:55:00 AM »
I hope no one thinks a THS bowler shouldn't go to the Kegel Training Center.  They are perhaps the best facility for those bowlers who want to work on their game while bowling on a variety of conditions such as sport bowling conditions.  One can bowl on any pattern and tailor a game around that.  If all you intend to bowl on is a THS, then perhaps a local coach, or one closer to home is a better option.  If after a local coach is used you still want further training, then Kegel would be a great option.  Just don't think Kegel is the only way to get quality instruction.
 



StickZ wrote on 9/30/2011 10:40 AM:
so if alot of bowlers who dont have the time or money to travel around to bowl tournaments or regionals shouldnt go to kegel? someone please explain this to me. i know a THS isnt the hardest thing in the world but you still have to make shots consistantly. i have yet to bowl on a house shot where i had 10 boards jus to spray the ball across...I had been thinking hard about saving to go to kegel but with the negative comments coming from a few people in this post, i dont see why i would "waste" my time. sorry that the bowler who bowls every year week in week out, wants to be competitive but doesnt have the time to bowl on sport shots is the dirt on your shoe...


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Re: kegel training center
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2011, 05:06:13 PM »
Kegel Training Center has a Holiday camp on Dec. 28-30 for $650/person or  $1200 for parent/child plus tax.
 
Includes: Drilled Hi performance Storm/roto grip ball, daily meals, etc. and Pete Weber will be their special guest.
Btw, lodging not included. Seems like a good deal.
 
I would really love to go but the dates are not convenient...Saw this ads on BTM October issue. 



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Re: kegel training center
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2011, 01:57:13 PM »

Our holiday camp special guest is Pete Weber.  For more information, please visit


 

The Kegel Training Center trains and works with all bowlers of all abilities and ages.  I have personally worked with bowlers from 6 years-old to 85+ years old.  We take pride in our training method that have helped bowlers improve significantly.  We help bowlers throw their first 600, 700 or 800 series or win titles in major international competitions.  From beginners to professional to national teams, we work with the complete spectrum unlike anywhere in the world.

 

We can help any bowler get better.  And, most importantly, we work will all bowlers whether you want to get better on a house shot or learn to become a competitive PBA player.

 

To illustrate, we recently  helped a 64 year old woman improve her physical game so that she can consistently throw faster ball speed efficiently.  We were able to increase her ball speed from mid 14s to 17 in 90 minutes. And, as measured by C.A.T.S., her repeatability improved tremendously.  Imagine how much higher here scores will be.  Most importantly, she will enjoy our great sport more.  And, within the same week, we worked with a 13 year-old boy from Columbia who wants to be a better bowler.  We are helping prepare four of our Webber International University bowlers for the Pan American Games.  And, Amleto Monacelli is with us training this week.  Jason Couch is getting his equipped drilled at the KTC in preparation for the tour.  From  a 110 average beginner to a future PBA hall-of-famer, all train with us.

 

We enjoy working with all bowlers about realizing their goals.  From bowling ball arsenals to biomechanical efficiency of a great physical game and advanced lane play, the Kegel Training Center creates and educates bowling knowledge.

 

Come on down to Florida.  We would love to see all of you at the Kegel Training Center.

 


 

For more information on some of our success stories read


 

 


 
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Re: kegel training center
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2011, 05:49:47 AM »
For bowlers living in Europe there is the Kegel Training Center Europe NL which is located in Tilburg, The Netherlands. More info:
 
www.kegeltrainingcenter.eu" title="Kegel Training Center Europe NL">www.kegeltrainingcenter.eu 



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Re: kegel training center
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2011, 08:05:59 AM »
yes someone suggested not to go to kegel if you only bowl on a THS...i felt quite disrespected with this comment..i would love to take my game to the "upper level" but I have started a family so i spend money elsewhere but kegel has always been an option to get great coaching and see my game broken down into pieces. sorry everyone is not on your level crash, so whats your name? ill look for you on television on sundays.
 



Crash7189 wrote on 9/23/2011 8:54 AM:
I do suggest Kegel may not be the answer for everyone if you only bowl a house shot do not waste your Money. Find a Local coach.   Kegel is best for the Sport shot player the Pro , The serious bowler who knows what it takes to improve to the upper level of this sport.


 


 




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