Author Topic: Lane Courtesy (Read 3538 times)

DanH78 · « **on:** March 22, 2004, 10:07:15 PM »

Having recently returned from the ABC, where there is 1 lane courtesy, no one seemed to have a problem. Yet, at my home house(s) Most people will step off the approach without 2 lane courtesy, some EVEN 3! So why can we perform on the big stage with one lane courtesy, but on a typical league nite, where you don't need to really concentrate on the shot, people think they need 2 or 3 lanes each way?

DanH78 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 23, 2004, 01:12:03 PM »

Well, that's partially true I'm sure. But the prima donna's bowl Nationals too.

WSUstroker · « **Reply #2 on:** March 23, 2004, 01:14:35 PM »

A lot of the primadonnas expect 2 lane courtesy at their home house because they feel they run the show. At nationals, most realize that they aren't the top dogs anymore.
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230-n-up-or-bust · « **Reply #3 on:** March 23, 2004, 02:22:14 PM »

The only thing a bowler has to be concerned with is a little over 60 feet directly in front of him/her. Pins crashing, music, barometric pressure changes, etc....blah, blah, blah...it was whisper quiet when I choked my backside off with 297 last year....everything else is just a reason for not executing the best shot that you could have thrown.
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Overhand · « **Reply #4 on:** March 23, 2004, 02:27:36 PM »

Two lane courtesy sucks...if something's bothering you two lanes over, then it will also bother you five lanes away. Work on your concentration...
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jd1319 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 23, 2004, 02:34:41 PM »

I personally don't care, if they want to give somebody 2 lanes, fine, it just means I get up and throw my shot before them. If they don't like it, tough. League bowling is 1 lane, and you don't need more unless your an uptight psycho that thinks your better than you really are.

For the most part though, the pace of leagues is good enough that it is not an issue, and you can give the 2 lanes without hardly slowing the pace down. What bugs me more is having to wait on people who are repeatedly no where to be found when it's their turn.

tenpinspro · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2004, 04:33:20 AM »

I thought in gender specific "Classic(w/ a C not K) or Scratch " Leagues that it was 2 lane courtesy. My old Chicago travel leagues where 1/3 were pros then expected that. Once any league became "mixed" in gender, it became 1 lane even if it was scratch. But then again, that WAS a long time ago....

I give 2 lane courtesy depending who it is. If the bowler is very serious about his/her game and they want it, I'll give it to them. But in my little hdcp league with the wife, I've learned(and still learning to give 1). At the Nationals, I look at the bowler, if he/she doesn't look back, then I'll give 1 lane but if they give you the look, it means they're paying attention and would like 2, then I'll give 2. I also learned what Rags stated about the right lane, it's like a blinking red, right of you...gets the right of way.
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MSC2471 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2004, 05:24:53 AM »

When I was bowling in college that's when I got used to two lane courtesy- especially if we were bowling high profile tournaments where teams like William Patterson, Bryant, Illinois University, St. John's and so forth were bowling. Most of the people are correct in stating that once you get used to the flow it doesn't take any longer to do 2 lane courtesy as it does 1 lane. In my regular leagues I give one lane courtesy unless I see the majority of the league giving 2- but I have been learning that if you truly have mental focus, you only need 1 lane to bowl your best.

Matt

charlest · « **Reply #8 on:** March 24, 2004, 07:06:20 AM »

Ragnar wrote:

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I'm sorry folks, but 2 lane courtesy, in the usual league is ridiculous.

Not if that is the league tradition, whetehr or not it is written into the by-laws.

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One of the major problems of ANYONE bowling a regional for the first time is getting used to 2 lane courtesy.

I think you preenting the wrong picture here. PBA regionals have 1 pair coutesy, not 2 lane. I learned that in a Sport league this past summer, where most of the bowlers were regional players and they agreed on it. I found it VERY different from lane courtesy. I goofed many times in the first 3-4 weeks.

If you're on a lane of a pair, courtesy extended to both lanes on the pair to the left and the right of you.

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da Shiv · « **Reply #9 on:** March 24, 2004, 07:40:24 AM »

I'm always surprised at what a hot-button topic this is on this board. I can understand if people consider two-lane courtesy to be unnecessary, but what I don't understand is how it actually RILES so many people. One lane courtesy is in the rules. Two lane courtesy is not AGAINST the rules.

In the Detroit area, two lane courtesy is the norm. I don't know when or how that evolved, but that's just the way it is. If that sets you off, then you have two choices when you bowl around here. You can either use two-lane courtesy and bowl all night pissed off, or you can use one-lane courtesy and bowl all night with everybody else pissed off at you. If those two choices are unacceptable to you, you can either quit bowling or change your attitude.

If I were bowling somewhere where one-lane courtesy was the norm, I'm sure I'd get used to it quickly. I already bowl with people yelling "BOO-YA!" and just generally bellowing all over the place; so I guess I could deal with one-lane courtesy.

Shiv
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kendog · « **Reply #10 on:** March 24, 2004, 10:50:22 AM »

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Shiv - 2 lane courtesy may not be against the rules, but when the THL goes that route I tend to quit the league. Why? Because I do not like being kept at the bowl and extra half-hour (usually longer) be people who do not know how to do 2 lane courtesy. Heck, most leagues I've seen run 20 to 40 minutes too long anyway because Joe is in the bar, Tom is outside having a smoke, Harry is down on lane 14 BS'ing with Dick, and Cynthia is watching the poker game. Maybe it's just me, but when the anchor of the other team is coming off the approach I'm (I'm leadoff) up and headed to the ball return.

Our trio league has a mixture of two laners and singles. I personally like to try and time my approach to the ball return to get two lane naturally. When I shoot a spare, I only usually look for one, depending on the next bowler and if I know what his preference is. The other stuff you threw in there Rags is a whole different discussion isn't it? I mean what's two lane have to do with bowlers, not present when their turn comes up? I personally think bowlers who always try to be sooooo gracious and that they become hesitant, and do so to a fault, cause more of the league delays than anything.
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kendog · « **Reply #11 on:** March 24, 2004, 11:08:05 AM »

There is certainly more than enough ignorance to go around, that's for sure. Myself, I pay attention to others around me. When I bowled in a local men's classic 5 man for several years, I basically picked up two man because of peer pressure I guess, but it just became natural after a while. Now I just make myself familiar with my fellow leaguers. What I hate worst has to be getting the last pair in your league and butting up to another league which may or may not conform to ANY standards; now that's aggravating.
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9andaWiggle · « **Reply #12 on:** March 24, 2004, 11:38:31 AM »

It's probably because there's more money on the line during league night between the brackets, doubles pots, singles pots, jackpots, card games, nikels dimes and quarters per frame, beer frames, etc...

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Pinbuster · « **Reply #13 on:** March 24, 2004, 11:45:31 AM »

The pair courtesy works in regionals because the bowlers are there to bowl and are ready to bowl when it is their turn.

Using this in leagues the pair courtesy falls apart as someone is chit chatting or getting a beer or gone to the bathroom or chasing their kid(s) or etc, etc, etc. There not there and ready for their turn and it screws up the whole flow.

iommifan · « **Reply #14 on:** March 24, 2004, 12:03:26 PM »

1 lane is enough. When I am on the approach I couldn't begin to tell you what anyone else is doing anyway. People should focus harder on the pins and not the lane next to them anyway. With the amount of time people spend on everything from food, beer, lotto and whatever we can't afford more than 1 lane courtesy.

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