AMF house...That should say it all but I'll explain...Good bowlers cannot score here. The only people that are bowling decent are the high rev / high speed guys and the straight bowlers. Usually I can figure out a sport shot or a modified shot but this is not a shot. It seems to be the lane machine doesnt clean the backend. There is no back end reaction unless you have very high revs like the 2 handers or the no thumb guys. I used the Guru Master, no luck, Warrior, no luck, Tag, no luck. I played every line possible..Up 5 and it stays outside, up 10 and it hits the 3 pin, move inside and try to swing it and nothing comes back. Only if I throw it 11 or 12 MPH do any of the balls have any movement. Oh, the Jackal had the most movement but it was like split city. I bowl in 3 different houses and never had this issue before. I cant tell where the oil is, the balls dont come back with much on them either. Now the question is...Do I need something stronger then the Tag but weaker then the Jackal? Im med speed, med revs, last year avgd 218 at one house and 207 at another. My feeling is that they dont strip the lanes so I need something  to cut threw oily back ends but not burn up before it hits the arrows...Any suggestions?

Lol really!

Yes I do and your point?

5 Stars OP........this is some of your better work yet.

sounds like a lack of "swing lube"   

ok, I'll turn this into a legitimate discussion. from 2003 - 2009 the house that I was bowling at back then rarely stripped the lanes and so the lanes played oilier than they would otherwise. I was actually able to use a Visionary Midnight Scorcher at the box condition some nights...not for much more than a game..but at the time I was really scoring well with my Visionary Purple Ice Executioner on the condition...it was at 600 grit(which is the box condition) and then I had beans secret sauce on it...and I was locked in on that condition we had back then...so if you have something similar to either 2 balls--which to my knowledge no other company has developed anything quite like them --then you'd be fine...if not try and find either ball.

Brad

I was just reading on BBE why so many posters have gone from this site to BBE because of crap like this.  The OP posted was looking for advise and all he got was the child like responses (other than bcw1969's).  I am fairly new to this site, but I guess what I read on BBE is true.  And don't tell me to go join BBE if I don't like it, I already belong and I don't see these type of responses to a post.

I'm on BBE and there is almost no one there. So what you read is bogus. However, it IS pretty tightly moderated.

Quote from: 12XSECH on October 29, 2015, 02:17:00 PM

Blt you probably do suck....balls

Lol! At least I didn't come on here complaining about a house shot and wonder why my high end oil equipment won't work. Why don't you sign up for the bowling clinic the proshop puts on and Leon and I will teach you. For a fee of course.

You guys give a clinic on how to not be a good bowler?