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bennett

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Mixed League - I Average Higher
« on: December 03, 2003, 07:41:41 PM »
I was wondering how many of you average higher in a mixed league (if you bowl in one)?  If you do, what do you think the reasons are?  

I know my reasons.

First, it is fresh first shift oil.  They are stripped and oiled.  It is the same shot every week.  

Second, is that in this mixed league there are many lower average bowlers.  Therefore nobody is in my line of play most of the time.  In fact I typically only need to move a board or two left the whole afternoon.  

Third, we move faster than a 5 man team on average despite the lower averages.  

I’m averaging 10-15 pins higher on this league compared to the men’s league.  I don’t get oil on my men’s league and the lanes are different every time I walk in.  They constantly break down and you're always moving all over the place.

Please, let's not bring up old quitting issues!!!  That mess is over!


Edited on 12/4/2003 11:43 AM
I want to have a 220+ average like everybody else around here, so give me fresh oil.  

 

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Re: Mixed League - I Average Higher
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2003, 10:47:57 AM »
I find in my mixed league that many of the lower average women use plastic equipment.  Thus, the oil carries down rapidly and sporadically.
In the men's leagues, the shot usually is wide open after the track
breaks down.
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Re: Mixed League - I Average Higher
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2003, 12:09:03 PM »
Well, since I bowl in two primarily guy leagues, all my leagues are mixed.
But - I bowl in two handicap leagues, and two scratch leagues.
Mon. Handicap - lots of beginners. Lowest average. (went from 172 to 190...)
Tues. scratch - high cap league - tougher shot than last year. Second high average - 207
Wed. Scratch - variable shot (based on how much open play before league, etc) second lowest average - 204 (of course, the 453 series a few weeks ago took its toll on the ole average)
Thurs - handicap. Bowling great - highest average. 213
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bennett

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Re: Mixed League - I Average Higher
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2003, 01:38:29 PM »
Sawbones,

Yes, true.  However, I have low average bowlers on my team.  In addition there are only 3 bowlers in the mixed league out of 120 bowlers that carry a 200+ average.  Most of the bowlers in the league aren't playing into my shot. So, in addition to what you mentioned I have the shot all to myself for the most part.  

I will put it plainly, I'm feeling what it is like to be a lefty.  Never have to move...  That is more to what I was driving at.  I love oil, but can't the types of bowlers bowling on the league also make a difference because a righty can suddenly feel the bliss of a lefty?

Edited on 12/4/2003 2:39 PM
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Steven

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Re: Mixed League - I Average Higher
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2003, 01:44:57 PM »
Sawbones: You're right -- it's the time vs. the type of league, but in general, the scenario Bennett outlined is correct.

In most houses, the mixed handicap leagues bowl at 6:00pm and the competitive classic leagues follow at 9:00pm. At least in the 4-5 houses I'm familiar with, the lanes are oiled with a fill-in pattern or even stripped and re-oiled immediately prior to the 6:00pm leagues. This is necessary to ensure that there is enough oil left for the 9:00pm leagues to work (even if the break down patterns turn out dysfunctional).

Personally, I much prefer bowling in the 9:00pm leagues. Not just because the leagues are competitive, but because the path to the pocket is far more challenging. Having to deal with oil transition and constantly moving just adds to the competitive equation. What Bennett looks at as a negative is actually considered to be a positive by many bowlers.

There is little satisfaction in averaging 230 on clean lanes with fresh backends (unless you like being a robot).
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bennett

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Re: Mixed League - I Average Higher
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2003, 02:14:57 PM »
Steven,

What I find interesting is that all of the elite bowlers (if you want to call them that) are bowling on fresh oil during another day of the week.  

I'm bowling on 3rd and 4th shift conditions (I've checked with the house).  One of the leagues, the oil is laid down in the morning and they aren't oiled at all in the afternoon.  That's why I've used a plastic ball from time to time when needed.  

I would gladly take the softer 2nd shift condition as you've described.  I want a 220+ average like everybody else around here.  Can you blame me?
I want to have a 220+ average like everybody else around here, so give me fresh oil.  

bennett

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Re: Mixed League - I Average Higher
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2003, 02:27:15 PM »
SawBones,

Leaving Steven out of the picture, I do agree with your last post.  I really struggle on 3rd and 4th shift conditions.  But, on the other hand who can blame me for wanting to bowl on fresh conditions?  I may want a 220 average like everybody else around here.  

If I tell Joe Blow that I stuggled to hit a 200 average, he will look at me like "so what, I averaged 205"  If I tell him that I finished 223 for instance, then he may think that I'm good when I'm not.  

We both know the 200 is harder to get as I'm the only one averaging 207 on that condition in my league.  I'm sure bowlers on this league would average 210-220+ if they were on a softer condition.

Edited on 12/4/2003 3:26 PM
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Steven

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Re: Mixed League - I Average Higher
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2003, 02:36:32 PM »
Sawbones: I exist here to ruffle feathers, but yes, we do agree here

Bennett: If you consider that a second shift league following a mixed handicap session means that 15 games (plus warmups) have already been bowled on each lane, I would hardly call the conditions 'soft'. The heads have already started to go, and there is definite carrydown to contend with, so scores can be really ugly if you read the "mess" out there wrong.

I would argue that the conditions actually become 'easier' (i.e. higher scoring) after even more games have been played. The backends tend to open up again, and by playing more speed further inside, scores tend to shoot up. I know the speed thing is an issue with you, so I won't open up that can of worms again, but making that adjustment is just part of bowling. Things would get mindless really quick if we could have our favorite condition laid out for us all the time.
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Re: Mixed League - I Average Higher
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2003, 02:56:59 PM »
Steven,

With a 2nd shift one can chase the oil to stay in the pocket.  That is what our team did.  

3rd and 4th shift there is no oil to chase.  Even inside is dry.  The ball return extends out so far that even if I wanted to I couldn't stand in front of it.  Playing 4th or inside of 4th arrow will hook as much as outside the only difference is you'll run out of room.  So after getting burned playing inside I just worked with a weaker ball and played outside.
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Just like any other bowler I may want to have a 220 average like everybody else around here, so give me fresh oil.  
I want to have a 220+ average like everybody else around here, so give me fresh oil.  

Steven

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Re: Mixed League - I Average Higher
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2003, 03:21:36 PM »
bennett: Have you considered getting a ball like the Lane#1 XXXL? It has a plastic cover with a real diamond core, so on really dry lanes, it's a great match.

I can't imagine any condition so dry that an XXXL would over react. Give the ball a look -- it might help solve your 4th-5th shift problems.


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Re: Mixed League - I Average Higher
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2003, 03:30:33 PM »
Steven and SawBones,

I'll talk to my pro shop guy about this.
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Just like any other bowler I may want to have a 220 average like everybody else around here, so give me fresh oil.  
I want to have a 220+ average like everybody else around here, so give me fresh oil.