We have just a few weeks left in our PBA league which has been great fun. The second time I’ve done it and getting better for sure.
  I use pin up layouts for everything I’ve shot in the 5 years I’ve been bowling. I was encouraged to use some different layouts for the longer shots. Well it sucked. The ball motion was flat and the ball went into its roll faze very early wich is the point I know. Coach had me try different releases, speeds and tilts but the ball motion is not to my liking. Went back to a Game Breaker (Pin right over the fingers CG right under) for every thing and now averaging 25 pins more a game.
 Any one else have layouts that just do not work? My PAP is 5.5 over 1 up. Also do not know exact angle but have allot of natural side rotation.