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Title: League Rules Too Long?
Post by: MI 2 AZ on October 20, 2015, 04:23:11 PM
I was looking at the August issue of BJI and in an article about the Bowl Expo 2015, I ran across a couple of interesting comments.  I will start another topic about one of them later but this one by Bart Burger said "If  your league rules are more than one page, burn them.  Just burn them.  My definition of hell is attending a league meeting."

I don't think any of the leagues I have bowled on were ever less than two pages.  Most were two or three pages long.

Are your league rules more than one page?

Title: Re: League Rules Too Long?
Post by: Jorge300 on October 20, 2015, 06:09:22 PM
I have never seen league rules that were one page long. They are always 2+ pages. I'm not sure how you can have league rules and keep it to one page actually.
Title: Re: League Rules Too Long?
Post by: Juggernaut on October 21, 2015, 07:41:43 AM
 "If your league rules are more than one page, burn them" is a statement from someone who doesnt give a flip about the rules, and WON'T, unless it involves him.

 When something happens that he feels "screwed" by, you can bet your a** that he will want the "rules" to fix it for him, and will probably scream/cry loudest of all!

 I agree that the rules should be as simple as possible, but some things simply require rules to regulate them, and even these simple rules would be more than a single page.
Title: Re: League Rules Too Long?
Post by: Phoneman on October 21, 2015, 07:47:40 AM
Ours are more than 2 pages because we have to use a large font for all the old people (myself included) to be able to read the rules.
Title: Re: League Rules Too Long?
Post by: Good Times Good Times on October 21, 2015, 08:06:04 AM
Length doesn't equal complexity. 
Title: Re: League Rules Too Long?
Post by: Aloarjr810 on October 21, 2015, 09:06:41 AM
A example of a fairly short set of league rules is in the USBC league operations handbook. This example is about 1 1/2 pages long depending on formatting.

A lot of the length of league rules, are just comprised of basic league information not just the "Rules". Things like league starting/ending Date, Time, Fees etc.

Also some leagues Sec.feel the need to copy paste a lot stuff out of the USBC rule book instead of just putting a reference to it in the rules (if their even needed in the first place).
Title: Re: League Rules Too Long?
Post by: MrNattyBoh on October 21, 2015, 09:48:39 AM
Both of my league rule sheets are less than one page. Most everything is covered by the USBC rulebook. I will try to post my league rule sheet this week.
Title: Re: League Rules Too Long?
Post by: milorafferty on October 21, 2015, 10:27:22 AM
The perfect league rule list:

1. Pay your league fees
2. Shut up and bowl


 8)
Title: Re: League Rules Too Long?
Post by: charlest on October 21, 2015, 10:36:03 AM
The perfect league rule list:

1. Pay your league fees
2. Shut up and bowl


 8)

Make a left at the first star and then straight on til morning. Then you wind up in either Fantasyland or the Twilight Zone, not sure which. :)

Rules are required to handle human foibles, faults and idiosyncrasies; unless you're bowling with angels, elves or dwarves, you need them.
Title: Re: League Rules Too Long?
Post by: milorafferty on October 21, 2015, 10:51:03 AM
The perfect league rule list:

1. Pay your league fees
2. Shut up and bowl


 8)

Make a left at the first star and then straight on til morning. Then you wind up in either Fantasyland or the Twilight Zone, not sure which. :)

Rules are required to handle human foibles, faults and idiosyncrasies; unless you're bowling with angels, elves or dwarves, you need them.

Perfection can never be attained...  :D
Title: Re: League Rules Too Long?
Post by: Bowler19525 on October 21, 2015, 11:31:01 AM
The league rules for the leagues I bowl on are 1 page (front and back).  Although it doesn't really matter how many pages they are, they are largely ignored and there are frequent "exceptions".
Title: Re: League Rules Too Long?
Post by: txbowler on October 21, 2015, 11:41:37 AM
Rules are not written for those who follow them.  They are written for those looking for the loophole.

"you can't charge me $30 for a returned check.  It's not in the rules.  You can't stop me writing checks after I have bounced 5, it is not in the rules.  Why can't I bring in a new roster of PBA pros for the last position round? It's not in the rules."

Etc, etc.

Title: Re: League Rules Too Long?
Post by: MI 2 AZ on October 21, 2015, 12:21:38 PM
Rules are not written for those who follow them.  They are written for those looking for the loophole.

"you can't charge me $30 for a returned check.  It's not in the rules.  You can't stop me writing checks after I have bounced 5, it is not in the rules.  Why can't I bring in a new roster of PBA pros for the last position round? It's not in the rules."

Etc, etc.



Good point.

Title: Re: League Rules Too Long?
Post by: trash heap on October 22, 2015, 10:55:10 AM
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Bart Burger said "If  your league rules are more than one page, burn them.  Just burn them.  My definition of hell is attending a league meeting."

Bart Burger should only open bowl.
Title: Re: League Rules Too Long?
Post by: Bigmike on October 26, 2015, 07:11:20 PM
We used to take our league rule sheet and put the name of the person in parentheses who caused the rule to be enacted. One guy bounced a couple of checks - new rule. One guy brought in a bunch of ringers for the position round and roll off - new rule. One guy used to empty his pockets and put amounts like 17.63 in the envelope with $3 to $4 of it in change along with some pocket lint - caused 2 rules - paying in equal increments and no change in the envelope.