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njv29

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Interesting play on flat pattern
« on: June 24, 2005, 04:48:02 AM »
In my summer sport shot league, we are currently bowling on a 32 foot flat pattern. They use a Kustodian Plus lane machine, and I have seen the pattern print out. It is indeed flat. What is interesting about this is that the outsides are absolutely unplayable. If the ball goes outside of 10, it slides 60 feet. Normally on anything shorter than 40 or so feet I can play right up 5~7 and have a good line, but on this me and everyone else in the league is playing 4th arrow from the start. I would say it could be carrydown, but it is instant, from the first ball in practice on. The lanes themselves are 3 year old Pro Anvilane, so I don't see topography playing a big issue.

Has anyone else seen this on flat patterns? I would expect it after a few games, but it is like this from the start.
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Re: Interesting play on flat pattern
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2005, 12:55:53 PM »
Did they buff that area?  Seems to me if the oil was applied flat, with no other alterations to the back half of the lane, that your ball would move similarly off of the 5 board as it would the 15 board - all angles/variables being the same.  Sounds to me they might have done something with those outside boards to create an OB.

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Re: Interesting play on flat pattern
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2005, 01:02:11 PM »
The pattern is the same as the one seen here:

http://www.bowl.com/images/data/BOWL_MECHANICAL/graphic/2524.GIF

As can be seen, there is no oil applied past 32 feet. I'm still scoring fine playing inside, it just goes against what i've always seen from short patterns. The fact that the outside is OOB has been confirmed to me by multiple bowlers, including one who recently won a Megabucks tournament. The lanes are supposedly stripped every day, so I can't imagine it's from previous oil.
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Re: Interesting play on flat pattern
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2005, 01:10:09 PM »
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The lanes themselves are 3 year old Pro Anvilane, so I don't see topography playing a big issue.


Topography is probably playing a small part, but I'd imagine that residual heat from friction is playing a larger part.  One of the local lane men explained this phenomenon to me a few years back.  Synthetics have a tendency to retain heat, and since the majority of the play is in the middle part of the lane, residual heat will tend to build up there, causing more rapid dissipation of lane conditioner.  This will make a flat pattern appear to play more like a reverse block, even on a freshly oiled lane.
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Re: Interesting play on flat pattern
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2005, 01:11:51 PM »
The only flat pattern i bowled on was a 42 foot 1 and you needed alot of hand to just make the ball work but you could play any angle.  The other kid who qualified for JOG on my pair was pure anlge just like dave traber and he had less revs and he still posted high scores but my line was 13 to 7 then the ball would walk back.  i havent bowled on any shorter ones but i dont know.
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Re: Interesting play on flat pattern
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2005, 01:23:31 PM »
maybe because when you got the ball out past the 10, it had so much belly that it didn't have a chance to come back???  maybe another factor is the equipment you used...people tend to use weaker, controllable stuff on sport/flat patterns...  still..straighter is greater!!
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Re: Interesting play on flat pattern
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2005, 10:11:27 PM »
I don't have an explanation either.  The two sport shots at my local house so far have been 34' and 37', and they both play quite similar to what you posted.  The 4 board out to the ditch are OOB right away.  It would be nice to play 3 or 4 like Bob Hanson mentioned, but it just isn't possible.  My solution has been to play(or try to) straight up 7 and flattening out my wrist.  It works great and carry is fine when I am able to execute.  I know it is very frustrating to play outside, miss a board right, and pick off the 6-9-10.  But moving way inside on a short pattern, for me anyways, is even worse.  

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Re: Interesting play on flat pattern
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2005, 03:23:43 PM »
As far as having too much belly to get back, I definitely didnt have that. My best look on almost every sport shot is straight up the boards somewhere outside of 10~7. Even my Absolute Inferno, drilled pin under ring wouldn't turn up outside of 10. Oh well, I guess I'll just continue to play inside. My scores have been fine (actually leading the league the last 2 weeks), so I cant complain.
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Re: Interesting play on flat pattern
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2005, 04:34:27 PM »
I read an article a while back, from Bowling this month.  In it they said that at some tournaments, they would point the conditioner/stripper jets inward, on the last 5-10 boards.  This would prevent stripper from being applied to the outside.  Thus the stripper would not work as well on the outside.  They did this in some tournaments to intentionally create an out of bounds.  I doubt that this is what is happening here, but it appears that oiling machines can be configured this way.

We have a house in town where the regular shot is similar for right handers.  Outside of the five, and it slides all the way to the 10 pin, but the lefties, can bank it.

Whenever you see those lane conditioner print outs, they rarely print out the oil past the end of the pattern.  I would like to see what is happening at 40+ feet.

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