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Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« on: February 01, 2005, 02:26:44 PM »


http://wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=2887442
EDIT: Also added: http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=81479&ran=49013

From what I know, he does almost every southern regional event, and has at least 1 title under his belt.

Guess he wont be getting any more titles anytime soon.
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Re: Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« Reply #61 on: February 04, 2005, 10:08:17 AM »
good grief Card!

you said lose instead of those. quick change that typo or your whole argument is void!!!
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Re: Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« Reply #62 on: February 04, 2005, 10:26:37 AM »
Michelle uh duh. Do you think I was going to sit here and type every step I'd have to type to be a judge. Who in the heck would let some1 fresh outta law school become a judge? I can care less about the quote function on this damn site. I'll copy and paste same thing. You dont shake babies. Period. How big of a dumb a55 are you to do that. My LD step-sister knows better than that. I'll get on building that dryer for people shaking babies. Btw stop making excuses for that LOSER.

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Strike300

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Re: Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« Reply #63 on: February 04, 2005, 10:44:34 AM »
If he's guilty he's guilty. You think others haven't done the same with the rest of the murders in this country? Get a life. You're just angry a "friend" of yours is going to rot in a cell and hopefully burn in HELL! Thats good you seperate yourself from the situation and don't hurt them at least your acting like an adult should. Having similar feelings and carrying out is the point.


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Re: Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« Reply #64 on: February 04, 2005, 10:56:53 AM »
Hes already in jail.

Joey claimed the baby fell, but once under investigation, they found out there was way to much brain damage for the baby to have just "fallen off a table."

I have no idea how long hes in for yet.
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Re: Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« Reply #65 on: February 04, 2005, 11:00:20 AM »
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You're just angry a "friend" of yours is going to rot in a cell and hopefully burn in HELL!


And people wonder why I call this kind of blather 'idiotic'...It's not obvious??

I'm sitting here debating with myself as to whether I should post a reply to those who disagree with me, but you know, I get the feeling it would be an exercise in futility.  You people have already played the roles of judge, jury, and executioner without considering for a moment what could have led up to the child's death.  So, I'll let you have the last word on this one.

There's more to this story than "Joey (allegedly) shook a baby to death."  While I've been trying to make you aware that there is more to the story, your little minds have been focused on the outcome and ultimate penalty for the events.  

So you've all succeeded in drumming me off the topic.  You're free to exist now in your own myopic little world without me upsetting your natural order.  Good day.
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Strike300

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Re: Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« Reply #66 on: February 04, 2005, 11:04:02 AM »
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Hes already in jail.

Joey claimed the baby fell, but once under investigation, they found out there was way to much brain damage for the baby to have just "fallen off a table."

I have no idea how long hes in for yet.

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Here's the quoting you guys wanted. Why would you lie that the baby fell? If he were dumb enough to shake that baby he should of just admitted to it and made a sincere apology for his actions. Maybe then he didnt deserve death but still life in prison. Let him fry!
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Re: Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« Reply #67 on: February 04, 2005, 11:04:53 AM »
I just wnat to clarify something here.  As I stated in my first post, I am not rushing to judgement on this guy (Joey).  I understand that he is a friend to some of you who are posting here.  My comments are aimed towards the general subject of harming a child.  I am a firm believer that the punishment should fit the crime (once proven).  
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Calling for the death penalty in this case and suggesting we put people who hurt babies in a dryer until they are dead is idiotic. It shows a degree of thought that defies logic - anyone's logic.

Why is this idiotic???  How does this defy logic??? Is it better to do this than to kill an adult?  No, an adult has a far better chance of defending themselves.  So in my opinion, it is a far worse crime.  It is a long standing argument that will always be around.  Some are for capital punishment, some are against it.  Everyone has there own opinion on it.  To express their opinion does not make them an idiot.  I do however think that people need to redirect there comments to make them more general instead of directing them towards Joey until it is proven what exactly happened.

As I also stated earlier, I hope that this is not what happened and that he is in fact innocent.  I have never once said, nor will I until proven otherwise, that he is guilty.  In fact, I hope he is not.  I just wanted to clear this up.  If it were one of my friends, I too would defend their honor until it was proven that hey were to blame.
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Re: Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« Reply #68 on: February 04, 2005, 11:13:10 AM »
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If it were one of my friends, I too would defend their honor until it was proven that hey were to blame.
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If it was my friend I would try to defend his character. As in this is not the typical Joey. If it is true what he is "accused" of there is no honor in him nor what he is "accused" of.

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Re: Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« Reply #69 on: February 04, 2005, 11:17:23 AM »
As I said, I would defend his honor until it was proven what happened.  If at that point he is convicted, he has no honor left to defend.  Until that time, there is no "proof" he doesn't have honor.  This is a general statement.
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Re: Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« Reply #70 on: February 04, 2005, 12:33:45 PM »
I thought it was obvious that information is limited and that we were not there.  That sorta goes without question.  But our beloved friend pin-nut is adamant in pressing the issue that we don't know the circumstances.

Let's discuss this.  What could be a justifiable reason for shaking a 2 year old?  Let's agree that death was not emanant.  Can anyone give me one acceptable reason?  This seems the be what pin-nut is all hung up on.  That he MIGHT have had reason to do this... that we don't know the events that caused this.

Fair enough.  Share with us, pin-nut, in your vast ocean of fatherhood knowledge and living outside of the myopic cave I live in.  Please.
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Re: Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« Reply #71 on: February 04, 2005, 12:38:11 PM »
Please, allow me.  The is ABSOLUTELY NEVER EVER an acceptable reason to shake a child.  Period!
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Strike300

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Re: Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« Reply #72 on: February 04, 2005, 01:12:04 PM »
HALLEJIUAH!
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Re: Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« Reply #73 on: February 04, 2005, 01:17:49 PM »
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Hes already in jail.

Joey claimed the baby fell, but once under investigation, they found out there was way to much brain damage for the baby to have just "fallen off a table."

I have no idea how long hes in for yet.


Being in jail in lieu of bond is a completely different thing than being convicted and sent to the state penitentiary.  The only thing that could be known at this point is the max on the initial charge, but most offenses rarely adjudicate at the same level as the initial charge, and even when they do, it is rarely for the max.  A quick review of VA code reveals that the range for 2nd Degree murder is not less than 5 nor more than 40 years confinement.

Expected plea options presuming sufficient evidence to establish guilt would include Voluntary Manslaughter, which is a class 5 felony and carries a term of imprisonment of not less than one year nor more than 10 years, or in the discretion of the jury or the court trying the case without a jury, confinement in jail for not more than 12 months and a fine of not more than $2,500, either or both.



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Re: Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« Reply #74 on: February 04, 2005, 01:38:12 PM »
Maybe I was harsh pin-nut.  I don't care about his case lets leave it alone.  Please I know I am not bright, but explain to me what situations this might happen in.  When might you shake a baby any baby to death.  When could we come up with something to explain that away.  What excuse could I give to a jury to explain that so that they could say oh I see your point.  Not just that, but any person to any other person.  In this day an age there is absolutely no excuse except for self defense for one person to put their hands on another person.  In the words of John Wayne.  I don't lay my hands on other people and I require the same of them.
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Strike300

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Re: Local PBA member charged for murdering a 2 year old girl
« Reply #75 on: February 04, 2005, 02:00:49 PM »
Glad you did join in Bill and you are right. We are merely stating what we feel out of disgust of this tragic mistake he made intentionally or unintentionally. Aside from the intentions he knew the damage that could be done and should suffer the maximum penalty. Same with drunk drivers and the rest of the idiots that dont take the time to realize the consequences of their actions. He took a life. Theres no replacement for that. Do people realize the affect this has on the victims family. Screw Joey if he did this. The things the bible speaks of are easier said than done. How many of us could have suffered the pain Jesus did on that cross for the forgiveness of our sins? The majority of us would never have went through that willingly.

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