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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: tommyboy74 on December 31, 2014, 08:08:58 PM

Title: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: tommyboy74 on December 31, 2014, 08:08:58 PM
With talk about the other staff changes happening, Motiv announced today on their Facebook page that Lonnie Waliczek is now a staff member.  I remember him most with Brunswick, though I think he had been a free agent for most of his PBA career.  There were shows with him throwing Storm, Columbia 300 and Ebonite in the past.
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: billdozer on December 31, 2014, 08:33:08 PM
Motiv is really doing well!  Its like utah, Brunswick, motiv. And no EBI lol
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: northface28 on December 31, 2014, 10:13:43 PM
Motiv is really doing well!  Its like utah, Brunswick, motiv. And no EBI lol

Yeah, im not sure Shafer signing with them even moves the needle, now if they got Duke..........
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: billdozer on December 31, 2014, 10:21:16 PM
If duke you could a make a show sheesh!
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: tommyboy74 on December 31, 2014, 10:44:53 PM
Motiv is really doing well!  Its like utah, Brunswick, motiv. And no EBI lol

You're definitely right on that.  Motiv has been making it on a good amount of shows the past few seasons.

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Yeah, im not sure Shafer signing with them even moves the needle, now if they got Duke..........

If EBI gets Duke, they'll have a chance to actually be visible. 
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: jrs813 on December 31, 2014, 10:48:47 PM
let us remember shafer's 4 titles are with ebonite equipment only his 300 on tv was with storm!!!
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: tommyboy74 on December 31, 2014, 11:34:12 PM
let us remember shafer's 4 titles are with ebonite equipment only his 300 on tv was with storm!!!

Actually Shafer's first title in 2000 was with Ebonite.  His other 3 titles along with the 300 game were all with Storm as he signed with them in 2001.  His first show with Storm was the 2001 PBA Orleans Classic out in Vegas.
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: jrs813 on January 01, 2015, 04:31:14 AM
went back on youtube.  we are both wrong.  first 2 with ebonite.  then signs with storm wins third 3 weeks later.  could not find video of the fourth in latam ny. in the 03-04 season but must be with storm sorry, I was wrong was not trying to upset anyone, just pointing out he had success with this company before.
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: itsallaboutme on January 01, 2015, 07:58:11 AM
Lonnie has pretty much been a non-factor in the PBA for the last 10 years.  After he washed out for the wheat on TV he pretty much went Ian Baker Finch.  Not exactly a staff signing to get excited over.

Shafer isn't exactly a needle moving guy either.  Hasn't won in over 10 years and hasn't made a show the last 2.  How much can you realistically pay for those kind of stats.
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: Impending Doom on January 01, 2015, 09:14:23 AM
I promise EBI can be picky since everyone is packing up and moving west.
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: scotts33 on January 01, 2015, 10:58:08 AM
Who cares?   :)

Of the 3 or 4 that are mentioned in the thread Duke has the best possibilities even as old as he is when the condition is right for him playing that deft touch down and in shot he is very good. 

Motiv is doing fine with their no-name staff....financially it makes sense for them.  Storm/RotoGrip/Chrisman have deep pockets.

The PBA/Nascar mantra win on Sunday sell on Monday has been dead for years.
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: tkkshop on January 01, 2015, 02:29:58 PM
Scott, Belmo sold a ton of UpRoar's. It's still there, just not as it once was.
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: spencerwatts on January 01, 2015, 03:12:24 PM
I'm told at least among the general populace of bowlers that ball sales are regional in nature. Like where I am in the Carolinas you see a lot of people with Motiv equipment. Some would attribute that to staffers like Lee Vanderhoef, Dick Allen, B.J. Moore, and Connor Pickford.

Is that observation about equipment sales being regional accurate or inaccurate?
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: northface28 on January 01, 2015, 03:27:00 PM
I'm told at least among the general populace of bowlers that ball sales are regional in nature. Like where I am in the Carolinas you see a lot of people with Motiv equipment. Some would attribute that to staffers like Lee Vanderhoef, Dick Allen, B.J. Moore, and Connor Pickford.

Is that observation about equipment sales being regional accurate or inaccurate?

Id say accurate.
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: SVstar34 on January 01, 2015, 03:43:23 PM
I'd agree also that it is very regional. I live in Southern Utah and most stuff thrown and carried by the pro shop is Storm/Roto. Ebonite has a bad rep around here, I was the only one throwing track and I'm the only one throwing Columbia right now. A couple guys throwing hammer. A little motiv and 900 global mixed in. Not much Brunswick around either, I have a guru ordered I think I'll be the only guy with Radical
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: K_mart300 on January 02, 2015, 03:26:35 AM
The part about regional stuff is soo true but also can even be just from city to city.My home center was Brett Spanglers home center when he was a kid and there is a ton of motiv being thrown around here but if you drive about fifteen minutes to Muncie the majority of stuff being thrown up there is. Dv8/Brunswick/Radical because they have staffers from around there. Then if you go to Indy I see more Ebi stuff going down the lanes in my opinion. It's crazy how one or two people can change the landscape of a local bowling community
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: scotts33 on January 02, 2015, 09:01:10 AM
I'd agree that area sales are two major factors.  First, what the pro shop is aligned with or favorite brand of the pro shop pro.  Second, if there is any regional staffer promoting the brand in their area.  ie. Madison, WI is a Storm town because of riggs being a local resident.  Third and a distant third is what won on Sunday is purchased because of a win on a show.  Any good pro shop guy will not push a certain ball if it doesn't match up to a particular player.
Title: Re: Lonnie Waliczek joins Motiv
Post by: michelle on January 11, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
was never a fan of the Human Rain Delay but I give him props for still being able to be out there doing something he loves...

I got stuck behind him in the one PBA regional in which I competed...had done reasonably well in my first few games and then we had to make the turn at the other end of the house and you could set your sundial by him.  It isn't just the telecasts where he has been, umm...deliberate in his pre-shot routines.