Roto Grip Nomad Solid, pin appx. 3 3/8" - 4" from PAP, with a short buffer of somewhere between 1 1/2" - 2 1/2", depending on how quick you want it to react. Great ball for a THS. I'm also slightly speed dominate with medium revs. My Nomad has the pin just slightly above and right of the ring finger at 3 1/2 stacked, and about a 2 1/2" buffer. Makes a nice hard move to and through the pins, angular but not too much so. I'm pretty happy with it so far.