Author Topic: low backswing = higher rev rate (Read 22108 times)

Applejacks · « **on:** April 21, 2015, 10:40:12 PM »

Am i crazy or do lower backswings bowlers have a higher rev rate compared to those with higher backswings? All my teammates have lower to mid backswings but they seem to have a much higher rev rate than me who has a higher backswing

northface28 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 21, 2015, 11:04:28 PM »

Makes sense, you can shred all over it.

bradl · « **Reply #2 on:** April 21, 2015, 11:26:50 PM »

Interesting theory.. And while I can agree with it, I'm going to debate the other way, playing Devil's Advocate.

I would think that it not only depends on the backswing, but how much hand you could put in the ball as well. cases in point:

Rudy K (I can never spell that guy's name right). If I remember right, he had a very high backswing, but his revs were crazy.

Rash. Same thing.

On the amateur side, Robert Flunder IV. He has just as high a backswing as Rudy, but he could rev it up as well, depending on the pattern.

Compare that to, say, DJ Archer.

I guess my point is that there are exceptions to the rule, so it could go either way.

BL.

charlest · « **Reply #3 on:** April 22, 2015, 12:26:54 AM »

Horse hockey pucks!
There is no correlation between backswing height and rev rate.
People with higher backswings TEND to throw the ball faster; so it appears their rev rate is no as high. But look at Ronnie Russell: very high backswing and crazy revs.

Rev rate depends more on a quick thumb release and a good follow through than the backswing height. Probably a few more factors thrown in.

xrayjay · « **Reply #4 on:** April 22, 2015, 01:04:17 AM »

I have medium low back swing ...... I wish I had high revrate problems lol

Ken De Beasto · « **Reply #5 on:** April 22, 2015, 03:15:58 AM »

It all depends IMO. you can have a low back swing but ya bentt thee crap out of your elbow causing you to be super under the ball to unload the ball on the lane to get your revs but if ya have low swing and little cup in the wrist then ya prolly will have lesser revs. Same for highback swing,if you have a lil bent in the elbow or super cupped at the top of swing like sean rash then you will have more revs. if ya playing flat hand high swing you should just have more speed then revs.

tuckinfenpin · « **Reply #6 on:** April 22, 2015, 08:07:25 AM »

I agree with charlest.

Rev rate has more to do with hand / wrist at the point of release. Where the ball is leaving the hand is where the revs are generated, not the way the ball gets to that point.

BallReviews-Removed0385 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 22, 2015, 08:14:51 AM »

I also agree with charlest that rev rate is a product of the release itself and has nothing to do with the length of the back swing.

There should be a "flat spot" at the bottom of the swing that should enable the bowler to release the thumb quickly without the arm being too "muscled". Rev rate is mainly the product of good footwork, timing, and in essence, great mechanics. Great mechanics allow the bowler to repeat great shots more consistently, which is the key to bowling at the highest levels.

Rev rate, by itself, is of no value unless it matches up well with the bowler's ball speed. Slow speed and high revs create a control issue, while high speed with low revs creates the situation of little "miss" room, comparatively speaking.

Although I have no statistical data, I believe that more bowlers have gotten themselves "lost" by trying to maximize hook than most other mechanical problems combined. Just my observations...

GlobalDestruction · « **Reply #8 on:** April 22, 2015, 02:48:49 PM »

I am 6'2" with a high rev rate and my backswing goes just above my head when I bowl. I've actually been working on lowering it to smooth out my release. I think its just a coincidence that you are seeing that.

SVstar34 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 22, 2015, 03:13:58 PM »

Quote from: notclay on April 22, 2015, 08:14:51 AM

I also agree with charlest that rev rate is a product of the release itself and has nothing to do with the length of the back swing.

There should be a "flat spot" at the bottom of the swing that should enable the bowler to release the thumb quickly without the arm being too "muscled". Rev rate is mainly the product of good footwork, timing, and in essence, great mechanics. Great mechanics allow the bowler to repeat great shots more consistently, which is the key to bowling at the highest levels.

Rev rate, by itself, is of no value unless it matches up well with the bowler's ball speed. Slow speed and high revs create a control issue, while high speed with low revs creates the situation of little "miss" room, comparatively speaking.

Although I have no statistical data, I believe that more bowlers have gotten themselves "lost" by trying to maximize hook than most other mechanical problems combined. Just my observations...

Enough said

billdozer · « **Reply #10 on:** April 22, 2015, 03:40:30 PM »

I dont think it matters to be honest. Everyone has a unique style...work on you and make better shots/pick up spares. I know some people that are damn good and look terrible doing it!

JustRico · « **Reply #11 on:** April 22, 2015, 03:52:23 PM »

Rev rate is created by wrist position and how the digits release from the gripping hole...as well as leverage thru the legs...
Arm swing height is illusionary and made too much of

charlest · « **Reply #12 on:** April 22, 2015, 04:34:40 PM »

Quote from: JustRico on April 22, 2015, 03:52:23 PM

Rev rate is created by wrist position and how the digits release from the gripping hole...as well as leverage thru the legs...
Arm swing height is illusionary and made too much of

You are being vague.
What do you mean by "illusionary" in this context?
The actual height is not an illusion. What is the "Illusion" in this case?

JustRico · « **Reply #13 on:** April 22, 2015, 04:36:31 PM »

It's illusuonary because bowlers base height incorrectly

JustRico · « **Reply #14 on:** April 22, 2015, 04:46:00 PM »

Height is difficult to display on a forum page...easier in person but...
One factor is the natural flexibility of the shoulder and if the swing is pulled up...two is - try this -
Hold your arm out parallel to your shoulder at 90 degrees...then swing it behind you...now bend your upper body forward into a proper back swing position...the bowling ball if in your hand would be above your head...too many 'coaches' think that's too high yet it's unimpeded motion to that height thus it's illusuonary

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