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lifted rillo

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Low End Solid
« on: February 05, 2013, 01:15:50 PM »
Got the go-ahead from the wife to get a low-end ball. I've actually been wanting to try a low-end solid for about 6 months, but never had the cash to get one drilled up.

So, I was thinking I'd change the surface to something easy to work with like 2000 or 4000 and was wanting some opinions on what would be a good smooth motion for medium to light oil with choppy heads or a ton of wet/dry.

I know I've asked a very similar question recently, but I've had some different opinions on what would work for my needs.

Looking at either an Ebonite Cyclone or a 900 Global Hook Green/Black. They both look pretty mild and would seem to work well for me on the above conditions. Anyone have opinions on what they like better? I'm going to go talk to the driller on Saturday to see what he can do for me.

A possible consideration would be the Roto Grip Shout. I know that one is pretty mild as well, but I haven't heard of anyone knocking off the polish yet.

 

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Re: Low End Solid
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2013, 01:30:03 PM »
Motiv Ascent Solid, OOB is already 2000.  Fair amount of commentary on it in the following thread - http://www.ballreviews.com/miscellaneous/scream-vs-ascent-pearl-t292470.0.html

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Re: Low End Solid
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2013, 01:34:36 PM »
The Cyclone really isn't mild.That being said,at 4000 polished(box finish) the ball is very angular,however it can be smoothed out with surface changes.I have a pin down Cyclone at 2000 grit that is my benchmark, and a pin up Cyclone that I keep at box finish for when the pattern breaks down.I hope this helps you.

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Re: Low End Solid
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2013, 01:39:18 PM »
Visionary Orange/Black Ogre is a solid choice as well. Performs well, thick and lasting cover. You will need to up the surface to at least 2000 so it gets through the heads but Visionary's covers manipulate very easy.


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Re: Low End Solid
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2013, 02:06:20 PM »
Got the go-ahead from the wife to get a low-end ball. I've actually been wanting to try a low-end solid for about 6 months, but never had the cash to get one drilled up.

So, I was thinking I'd change the surface to something easy to work with like 2000 or 4000 and was wanting some opinions on what would be a good smooth motion for medium to light oil with choppy heads or a ton of wet/dry.

I know I've asked a very similar question recently, but I've had some different opinions on what would work for my needs.

Looking at either an Ebonite Cyclone or a 900 Global Hook Green/Black. They both look pretty mild and would seem to work well for me on the above conditions. Anyone have opinions on what they like better? I'm going to go talk to the driller on Saturday to see what he can do for me.

A possible consideration would be the Roto Grip Shout. I know that one is pretty mild as well, but I haven't heard of anyone knocking off the polish yet.

Honestly....my suggestion is to take something like a Freeze Solid, take it to at least 4000, and put a 2 inch pin to PAP, cg at or near center of grip.  The layout will do wonders for blending in wet/dry and taking to cover to 4000 and even polish over the top of that will help with choppy heads.  I have a lower end ball laid out like that with 4000 and polish and it does wonders for that type of condition and also shorter patterns when the backends are really fresh.  The surface and layout I mentioned will give you nice length and a ton of control.

If you have a higher rev rate, polish it.  If not, then 4000 with no polish.
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Re: Low End Solid
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2013, 02:06:36 PM »
Storm Tropical Breeze is also a great choice. As is the Freeze Solid
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lifted rillo

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Re: Low End Solid
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2013, 02:12:14 PM »
I was kind of considering the Freeze solid, but I was throwing out suggestions that I know my pro shop can get quickly and easily.

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Re: Low End Solid
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2013, 03:05:03 PM »
I have the black and green hook I've only had it since last Thursday but the 2 League nights that I have thrown the ball on it's worked great. Mine is drilled pin down about 4" pin to pap it rolls very smoothly and early for a low end ball but I am liking it a lot so far.

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Re: Low End Solid
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2013, 03:22:54 PM »
That's exactly how I was going to lay it out. How strong is its continuation? What conditions are you seeing?

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Re: Low End Solid
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2013, 03:34:15 PM »
Used Versa max

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Re: Low End Solid
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2013, 04:25:20 PM »
they say medium 40 foot it's supposed to be a modified stone street but it's very light for what I would consider medium but other than that the ball has very good continuation in very good carry. Its a great step down from my look at 2000 same layout.

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Re: Low End Solid
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2013, 06:05:29 PM »
Good deal. When it starts to warm up here, the lanes get pretty spotty. To the point where the track area burns up within the first game. Lots of over/under and I'm looking for a piece that will help those conditions.

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Re: Low End Solid
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2013, 10:09:27 PM »
Go with the cyclone, the black/gold one is more of a pearl
the other ones are solid
a bit stronger than one might think, all cover strength
I have buddy who is speed dominant and just crushes some of the medium to dryer patterns with it.

And its $75 with free shipping

http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/Ebonite/9502/Cyclone-Purple-Orange-Yellow.html
« Last Edit: February 05, 2013, 10:11:07 PM by Dave81644 »

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Re: Low End Solid
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2013, 07:56:18 AM »
Really depends on what you want and what type of release you have.

Many in our house use balls with diffs like the Hook around .043 and like the Freeze, very similar and others like the even lower rg and higher flare Cyclone.  In our wet dry house a lot of flare like that can uusally only be paired with a up the back low axis rotation bowlers in the 20 to 40 degree axis rotation area, or speed dominant players.

Better for strong side rotation bowlers like myself are balls like the Rotogrip Sonic X(today's comparable is the slightly stronger Shout .025 to the Sonic .018 diff))  or the Motiv Ascent Solid (.025 also but smooth).

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Re: Low End Solid
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2013, 08:56:17 AM »
Go with the cyclone, the black/gold one is more of a pearl
the other ones are solid
a bit stronger than one might think, all cover strength
I have buddy who is speed dominant and just crushes some of the medium to dryer patterns with it.

And its $75 with free shipping

http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/Ebonite/9502/Cyclone-Purple-Orange-Yellow.html

I know for sure buying a low end ball from my pro shop will be cheaper than online. I can get out with grips and slug for less than $120 if I buy from him. If I go the online route, I have to pay $40 for drilling, then another $15 for my grips and slug. Either way, they're all inexpensive balls, and will be nice on the budget. Especially if I can win a few more brackets, the ball will pay for itself.