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xrayjay

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<300 revrate and THS
« on: June 05, 2015, 12:37:06 PM »
Over the years I've seen so many high rev bowlers who don't hit their spot twice in a row on the same lane; some have poor mechanics; yet post high games or averages. Well all know their high rev rate gives them bigger room for error.

So, how does, or what can a lower rev player like myself do to keep up with guys like these on THS?

I've bowled non THS with many of these guys and I get my points from these guys. It's actually fun to watch these guys struggle with making difficult spares after missing the pocket. But on THS, these guys on most nights, they'll smoke me. Even if I post 215-225 scores, it's not enough going up against these guys who post 230-240's.

What should a lower rev player work on to get better? Or What should a lower rev player do on THS to compete with these guys?

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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2015, 12:47:29 PM »
One word.

Shimwreck.
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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2015, 12:55:29 PM »
  Blind squirrels and wild boomers occasionally find an acorn, but they wont have the consistency.  As a sub 300 rpm senior, the only high rev guys who can beat me over more than a couple of games are those who can repeat shots and don't throw it all over the building.   
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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2015, 01:24:31 PM »
As a low rev guy myself, I have found plenty of area on typical house shots (as in I too can miss by an arrow kind of area) to be able to hang with the big rev guys.

To compete you need to have an excellent understanding of ball motion (transition from skid to hook to roll) and how to use it along with understanding how to exploit the puddle of oil in the middle and the dry to the outside on a THS.  With this, no matter what your rev rate is, you should be able to compete.
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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2015, 01:29:12 PM »
Quote from: Impending Doom on June 05, 2015, 12:47:29 PM
One word.

Shimwreck.

shimwreck..."because anything less would be uncivilized" hehehehe
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Impending Doom

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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2015, 01:50:01 PM »
Quote from: xrayjay on June 05, 2015, 01:29:12 PM
Quote from: Impending Doom on June 05, 2015, 12:47:29 PM
One word.

Shimwreck.

shimwreck..."because anything less would be uncivilized" hehehehe

Big rev guys freak out when you pull out the charcoal!
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LookingForALeftyWall

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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2015, 01:53:06 PM »
Quote from: Impending Doom on June 05, 2015, 01:50:01 PM
Quote from: xrayjay on June 05, 2015, 01:29:12 PM
Quote from: Impending Doom on June 05, 2015, 12:47:29 PM
One word.

Shimwreck.

shimwreck..."because anything less would be uncivilized" hehehehe

Big rev guys freak out when you pull out the charcoal!

As a low rev guy, I freak out when charcoal is used on a THS...however, improvise, adapt, overcome...
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J_w73

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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2015, 02:40:00 PM »
Throw it harder.  Most of the guys with higher revs have higher speed and I think the higher speed is one of the biggest factors in the higher scores today.  Seems that angle is not that important or that with most of today's balls, they will hook enough to get you enough angle to carry.  There is a certain speed threshold where all your pins will sit in the channel and not come out.  Once you throw it hard enough for the pins to come out of the channel or off the side boards you will see more strikes than you normally wouldn't get. Watch these guys that you are talking about and count how many times a pin comes out of the channel or off the side boards or somewhere for a strike.  And then watch how many times your pins sit in the channels and don't trip the corners.  I bet that is where you will see the difference in their scoring.

Also, the covers on todays balls will rev up at the back of the lane even at high speeds.  You want the ball at its highest revolutions when it enters the pocket.  That is what also produces strikes and carry. 
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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2015, 02:43:24 PM »
Quote from: LookingForALeftyWall on June 05, 2015, 01:24:31 PM
To compete you need to have an excellent understanding of ball motion (transition from skid to hook to roll) and how to use it along with understanding how to exploit the puddle of oil in the middle and the dry to the outside on a THS.  With this, no matter what your rev rate is, you should be able to compete.

I think this is a good point for everyone. When I'm throwing the ball well and scoring, it's because I'm getting my ball to go through all 3 phases.

If I'm throwing it good but not quite scoring how I think I should be, usually it's because my ball isn't going through 1 of the phases correctly
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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2015, 04:00:23 PM »
I am a lower speed player. 

I play what ever line is giving me the best entry angle (duh right),

With whatever ball is giving me the correct read and is absolutely not leaving 10 pins...

Very few times is the correct ball leaving 10s.  I'll bag it if I leave 2 in a row or I'll make a 5/2 move inside and if that doesn't work...its BAGGED!

Having an abundance of equipment helps too!
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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2015, 04:09:54 PM »
Its just a matter of better controlling shapes and angles - that doesn't change regardless if its THS or sport.
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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2015, 06:05:53 PM »
What if I told you low rev guys have the most room.
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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2015, 06:28:15 PM »
Quote from: Impending Doom on June 05, 2015, 01:50:01 PM
Quote from: xrayjay on June 05, 2015, 01:29:12 PM
Quote from: Impending Doom on June 05, 2015, 12:47:29 PM
One word.

Shimwreck.

shimwreck..."because anything less would be uncivilized" hehehehe

Big rev guys freak out when you pull out the charcoal!

What is the charcoal???
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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2015, 07:27:23 PM »
Quote from: todvan on June 05, 2015, 06:28:15 PM
Quote from: Impending Doom on June 05, 2015, 01:50:01 PM
Quote from: xrayjay on June 05, 2015, 01:29:12 PM
Quote from: Impending Doom on June 05, 2015, 12:47:29 PM
One word.

Shimwreck.

shimwreck..."because anything less would be uncivilized" hehehehe

Big rev guys freak out when you pull out the charcoal!

What is the charcoal???

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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2015, 11:30:24 PM »
Quote from: Impending Doom on June 05, 2015, 01:50:01 PM


Big rev guys freak out when you pull out the charcoal!

 Nothing like an 80 grit sponge going down the lane to change the look!

 
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