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yo

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dropping from 15->14 and throwing the ball better?
« on: June 14, 2009, 01:15:50 PM »
when i started bowling a year and a half ago, i was using 14lbs equipment. after learning how to bowl and what not, i decided it was time to move to 15. i ended up trying to go with no finger inserts as well and felt i was throwing the ball great. then i realized that i was coming out of the ball flat and my ball would just roll out. my pro shop guy then suggested i go with finger inserts so i can stay in the ball longer and get more lift. it worked for a while, but i still never was able to come around the ball as i used to with my 14lbs equipment. i thought it was the different release i got from bowling with no inserts and getting some coaching from another coach then my usual one, but when i went back to my old way, i would still come out flat.

i went out to practice today and for the hell of it, i took out one of my 14lbs balls. got an hour and for the last 15 minutes i pulled out the 14lbs ball. i noticed immidiately that i had a way better roll on the ball and the ball reaction was amazing! i never hooked the ball that much since i started! i knew the guy there so he let me bowl another 30 minutes free and i kept throwing balls. i threw my 15lbs stuff after and it would roll out again. same ball, same layout, same surface, everything! i wanted to same reaction so i got the same ball in 15 after moving up.

after this long story, my question is, would the weight be a big factor? its not that i cant keep my speed up with a 15lbs ball, i still throw it around 15-16mph. i sold most of my 14lbs stuff, but still kept a couple for sentimental reasons. good thing i did cause i brought them all back out for the next time i practice.
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Re: dropping from 15->14 and throwing the ball better?
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2009, 09:28:50 PM »
Has your release always been that way with 15lbs, and do you have more than one 15lb ball to confirm that?  My only guess is that your wrist isn't strong enough and you're on top of the ball at release with 15lbs.
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Re: dropping from 15->14 and throwing the ball better?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2009, 09:43:55 PM »
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Has your release always been that way with 15lbs, and do you have more than one 15lb ball to confirm that?  My only guess is that your wrist isn't strong enough and you're on top of the ball at release with 15lbs.


i too thought it might have just been the ball but no. i tried it will all my 15 lbs stuff and it just wont react as hard as my 14 lbs stuff. i release it the same exact way and everything. maybe it is my wrist but i was still able to come around the ball with my 15lbs stuff, just not as much. i dont wear any wrister or put any tape on my hand what so ever. i feel that i would get too dependent on those things, so i go the "old fashion" way as my uncle would put it. haha.
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Re: dropping from 15->14 and throwing the ball better?
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 09:25:51 AM »
A drop in ball weight can affect your timing.  The more free your swing is, the more it will affect it.  It's possible that with a little less weight, your swing became later.
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Re: dropping from 15->14 and throwing the ball better?
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 09:34:45 AM »
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A drop in ball weight can affect your timing. The more free your swing is, the more it will affect it. It's possible that with a little less weight, your swing became later.


I agree!
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yo

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Re: dropping from 15->14 and throwing the ball better?
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2009, 11:23:08 AM »
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A drop in ball weight can affect your timing.  The more free your swing is, the more it will affect it.  It's possible that with a little less weight, your swing became later.


i had a timing issue before because i have a high back swing. i take 7 steps to get to the line. first 2.5 steps are to get relaxed and the remainder is up to my body. i try to not think about it, but its been working great.

as for the weight issue, its just a little intriguing to see that a lighter ball which is suppose to hit softer then the heavier stuff actually has the best carry ive had in months. i guess technology has come a long way.. a VERY long way..
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Re: dropping from 15->14 and throwing the ball better?
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2009, 11:53:00 AM »
I had a shoulder injury 4 years ago dropped to 14lbs for about 6 months. My ball reaction was amazing with the 14's. You can manhandle the lighter ball easier which in turn gives you more/better reaction. Eventually my shoulder healed and my timing and strength went back to normal and my timing with the 14lbs gor really bad and inconsistent. So, now I'm back were i was at 15.
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