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lilpossum1

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maximizing carry
« on: March 30, 2014, 03:47:47 PM »
Are there things a bowler can do that maximize a bowler's chance of carry, whether there is a decent shot on the lane, or if the shot is completely soaked with very little back end like I had last Sunday.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: maximizing carry
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2014, 07:34:06 AM »
Very little backend seems to be solved often by looking shorter.

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Luckylefty
PS I know it but I'm struggleing with it right now myself!
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lilpossum1

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Re: maximizing carry
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2014, 12:16:51 PM »
Sunday before last night, there was so little back end that our balls were not finishing. I have never seen so many 5 pins left in my life. I probably left 6 of them in one game alone. I was throwing my mastermind with soft speed. My dad encountered the same thing last night. The only strike he threw in the third game was a miracle light mixer. His ball was so soaked with oil that it was hard to pick up!
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SVstar34

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Re: maximizing carry
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2014, 12:49:52 PM »
Did someone mix up the conditioner and cleaner in the oiler? That's what it sound like
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lilpossum1

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Re: maximizing carry
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2014, 02:09:39 PM »
Just the way the lanes are oiled. Leagues Sunday through Friday. Lanes stripped on Tuesday and the back ends are stripped on Thursday. No stripping the rest of the days. The lane man goes out with a squirt bottle and a mop to oil the lanes.
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Re: maximizing carry
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2014, 09:14:15 PM »
Coach Joe has a good article on bowlingknowledge.info called shape shifting.  Overall good strategy. 

May not help on the super soaked conditions...  many years ago, we had a similar situation.  I had an Apex Obsession at the time (only the 2nd Ebonite ball I have liked since the late 80s... other was the Turbo X).  I hit the surface with a 360 Abralon pad...  desperate times call for desperate measures...  never threw a ball with that much surface before...  just enough to get a touch of reaction when everyone else had none.  Managed to shoot a low 700 set playing literally up 15.  Still remember that night.

Find something with a strong core and get a lot of surface on it.

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LuckyLefty

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Re: maximizing carry
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2014, 11:32:05 PM »
IT sounds like our shot!

Mixed up the conditioner and cleaner!  Heee Haa!

We have pins sliding over 3 feet and staying upright.  I asked the oil guy.  "Any more butterfat you could put right in to the pin deck?"  He didn't appreciate it!

A 450 rpm guy lefty we have is standing 20 throwing 9 to 4 and does have some reaction.

I think I found a wrinkle too!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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lilpossum1

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Re: maximizing carry
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2014, 10:04:15 AM »
I am looking up the article now. thanks. Don't think I will dull a ball that much though. That type of shot is not exactly normal, but it is not unheard of. We tend to get craptons of carry down from time to time.

Lucky lefty, gotta love 70 feet of skid, eh?
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JustRico

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Re: maximizing carry
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2014, 12:06:36 PM »
You've gotta close your angles off...the longer the conditioner the shorter the potential reaction window...straighter is greater
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LuckyLefty

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Re: maximizing carry
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2014, 02:52:39 PM »
In the past this type of shot has been a specialty of mine.

Put my Robby's old timey wrist brace, softened up and I ended up with finishing with as good a shot as any of the lefties in the house.

Difference between top righties and lefties in the house is right now about 140 pins a set.

Washout at 9 at the breakpoint and strikes if 3 to 6  are hit at the break.

What is that minus 31 foot rule!  Forget it on this au jus!

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Luckylefty
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Re: maximizing carry
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2014, 09:24:01 PM »
Quote from: JustRico on April 01, 2014, 12:06:36 PM
You've gotta close your angles off...the longer the conditioner the shorter the potential reaction window...straighter is greater

Great advice as well.  Take what the lane gives.
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Re: maximizing carry
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2014, 09:30:48 PM »
Bowler miss that too many times...TAKE WHAT THE LANE GIVES YOU
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Re: maximizing carry
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2014, 12:34:58 PM »
I am surprised the -31 rule is so far off for we lefties in this house.

Breakpoint for most of on the Port side is right near 5 or thereabouts.  By the -31 rule it should be somewhere near 12 as they say the shot is 43 now....

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Luckylefty
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Re: maximizing carry
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2014, 03:40:34 PM »
From My long time in observing bowlers with the BEST carry, the ones that have a heavy forward roll with a slight axis tilt (NOT end over end), carry better than the "spinners".
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lilpossum1

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Re: maximizing carry
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2014, 06:34:28 PM »
Can somebody post a video or link to a video with a person with this type of rotation? I am a "see it done" person
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