Author Topic: Medium Differential Balls.... (Read 3419 times)

LuckyLefty · « **on:** February 20, 2012, 01:40:13 AM »

I am still loving and occassionally impressing better bowlers using my Icon 2(about 11 years old). This ball combined light load particle and a low RG (2.52) and medium Diff(.36).

This ball allows me to straigten up in the heads and project straighter to the breakpoint when my higher diff stuff forces me too deep and starts to ping. This ball after about 10 years still delivers impressive backend from a wider attack angle and often starts carrying again....and let's me hang with big handed monsters when pinging starts.

Some other balls I've encountered with similar specs....Track Spell(best really heavy flat oil ball ever! Allows on to point) Twisted Fury, Twisted Fury solid.

Wish some manufacturer's would come out with more of these lower diff gems. In the meantime they seem to remain my Secret Weapon against the two handers and big boys....

REgards,

Luckylefty

PS anyone else have a tec 2 ball still hookin strong? Scotch brite baby!

It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.

James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana

JohnP · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:39:18 AM »

Take a look at the soon to be released MoRich LocoMotion, link to discussion topic below. -- JohnP

http://forum.bowlingchat.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5131

TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2012, 11:29:06 AM »

Lucky,

As you know and can tell I am a two hander. I am in the same boat. I am currently using an Ebonite Tornado almost exclusively on the THS. I have every intention on using it at USBCs with that flatter pattern. I am using that ball as well as balls from the late 90s that have diffs in the .065 area. I like the higher diff balls because they create enough flare on their own to where I dont need weight holes to help read the patterns. I just use surface adjustments to adjust how long I want the ball to go before it transitions through each phase. I am just like you though. I am having more success with weaker cored balls because I can keep them in play longer.

I am the exact opposite. I bowled a tournament about 2 months ago using my Tornado. It was a 10 game marathon on the Kegel middle of the road pattern. I ended up finishing second. Most of the guys using the newest stuff were good for about the first 2 games and then they struggled quite a bit because the new stuff couldnt get 30 feet down the lane and if they did, they hit like a marshmellow.

Peace doesnt always have to be silent.

stopncrank · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2012, 11:31:11 AM »

http://www.seismicbowling.com/solarisBlackout.html

Here's one you might be interested in Lucky....oh and btw, the Pulse pearl was probably my favorite ball in this category!

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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #4 on:** February 20, 2012, 11:36:49 AM »

Two Hand(my son is one also and becoming known as a pretty good one!).

Regarding the diffs, I have a panic and a Sonic X and both are around .20 to .25. For me as a tweener/stroker they are ok as long as fresh but then die out with a sniff of oil downlane. This slightly stronger Icon 2 with .36 diff with strong cover(light particle) seems to allow me to go left(for most of you guys right) and then pound the pocket on carrydown with drying heads.

Keep it here!

REgards,

Luckylefty

It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.

James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana

TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 20, 2012, 11:46:42 AM »

I wouldnt doubt it if manfacturers starting heading in that direction permanently (ball with stronger covers but weaker cores). Centers cannot and will not keep up with the super hookers. They wont be able to afford it the cost of laying down that much oil on a daily basis. You look at most videos on youtube of the newer stuff, most guys are already into playing 4th arrow that have any rev rate. The lane is only so wide from gutter to gutter. Bowling wont change from 39 boards per lane and extend to 44 boards. The only answer is to keep the oil volume similar to what it is now and just start going from your basic 38 foot pattern and go to 42-44 feet. I dont foresee oil volumes going up and up to keep up with the strength in todays and tomorrows bowling balls. Tournaments are one thing. Everyday leagues are something different.

Peace doesnt always have to be silent.

stopncrank · « **Reply #6 on:** February 20, 2012, 11:55:44 AM »

Agreed TWOHAND, most folks try to use way too much ball at center I bowl at. Im afraid as long as folks keep gobbling up super hookers ball companies will happily keep shipping them out.

TWOHAND834 wrote on 2/20/2012 12:46 PM:
I wouldnt doubt it if manfacturers starting heading in that direction permanently (ball with stronger covers but weaker cores). Centers cannot and will not keep up with the super hookers. They wont be able to afford it the cost of laying down that much oil on a daily basis. You look at most videos on youtube of the newer stuff, most guys are already into playing 4th arrow that have any rev rate. The lane is only so wide from gutter to gutter. Bowling wont change from 39 boards per lane and extend to 44 boards. The only answer is to keep the oil volume similar to what it is now and just start going from your basic 38 foot pattern and go to 42-44 feet. I dont foresee oil volumes going up and up to keep up with the strength in todays and tomorrows bowling balls. Tournaments are one thing. Everyday leagues are something different.

Peace doesnt always have to be silent.

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ImBackInTheGame · « **Reply #7 on:** February 20, 2012, 12:01:59 PM »

Want a low Diff? Check out the Lane #1 Chainsaw S.O.S., or the original chainsaw if you can find one.

15lb rg min: 2.53

15lb rg max: 2.66

15lb diff: .13

Yes, that's a .13 diff. I have the original Chainsaw (solid coverstock) and love it ball for drier conditions, but you can also work it on the fresh going up the twig. I've played everything from 1st arrow to 4th arrow, depending on the conditions and it works well and carries very well.

charlest · « **Reply #8 on:** February 20, 2012, 06:03:47 PM »

There are a few of these "medium" RG Differential balls still around ...

Storm Tropical Heat .038"

Lanemasters Buzz & Widowmaker- .031"

Hammer Backlash - .031"

Seismic Blackout - .035"

Track 300T - .025"

plus any number of balls at .040"

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trackfiend · « **Reply #9 on:** February 20, 2012, 07:11:31 PM »

well i dont.know about the old balls but the 300t has been a house shot killer for me i took it to 1000 and its soooo good now.

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #10 on:** February 20, 2012, 07:20:30 PM »

My new to me 300T is sitting on the plugging table getting ready to get 3 Lefty holes!

I will be surprised if it works at my house but I am hopeful as I've had some good luck with my low diff tropical storm at this house.

I'm thinking too much cover too little flare....but....I am open minded.

Regards,

Luckylefty

It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.

James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana

TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 20, 2012, 07:34:40 PM »

So here is a question then......Would you rather have a stronger cover with a weaker core or a weaker cover with a higher differential? I ask because I have both and like them both. I really like my Tornado (I realize the cover on the Tornado is not strong by the way....LOL) I just bought a couple months ago but I also really like the roll of my Pink Warlock DC Tour at 2000 with polish. Reason I ask this is because the reaction shapes are similar and yet they are two completely different animals.

Peace doesnt always have to be silent.

trackfiend · « **Reply #12 on:** February 20, 2012, 07:36:01 PM »

well i hope you like it one of the guys i bowl with on our mens league is a lefty also and he has been killing it with his too but he took the cover of his to 4000 but he went 500 2000 2000 4000 on his spinner. Any way you you look at it great ball other than it looks like a easter egg lol.

dizzyfugu · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2012, 02:26:15 AM »

TWOHAND834 wrote on 20.02.2012 8:34 PM:
So here is a question then......Would you rather have a stronger cover with a weaker core or a weaker cover with a higher differential?

It is the package that counts, I do not see a trade-off here. But I agree with others that med-differential balls seem to be true sleepers and widely underestimated. I fare very well with them, and I think it actually is the rather smooth flare that helps saving energy for the back end - both Solaris Blackout and the much older Revolution Renegade in my arsenal fit my game very well. I even considered getting a Twisted Fury Pearl for some time.

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scotts33 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2012, 06:35:34 AM »

Steve,

I am like you on certain more blended conditions there is nothing better than the VBP NPT Scorcher on the fresh before transition as very weak urethane like cover with a huge core and 2.63 Rg total diff. of .069. That ball wallops the 1-3. For a medium ball diff. ball I use two Motiv QZ-1 Red 2.55 .043 OOB (pin up) and a VBP Orange Warlock 2.55 .044 P3000 (pin even) weaker reactive. Low diff. VBP B/G Centaur 2.61 Rg .015 P3000 (pin even) weakish cover huge core (modified DC core like your DC Tour).

The more and more I use this equipment the less and less I think I need strong new equipment. I used everything I described at WI State on Blue #1 except the NPT.

TWOHAND834 wrote on 2/20/2012 8:34 PM:So here is a question then......Would you rather have a stronger cover with a weaker core or a weaker cover with a higher differential? I ask because I have both and like them both. I really like my Tornado (I realize the cover on the Tornado is not strong by the way....LOL) I just bought a couple months ago but I also really like the roll of my Pink Warlock DC Tour at 2000 with polish. Reason I ask this is because the reaction shapes are similar and yet they are two completely different animals.

Peace doesnt always have to be silent.

Scott

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