I know this is old hat, but I'm having carry problems with asymmetrical bowling balls and I seem to carry a lot better with symmetrical bowling balls.  I know it has to do with the bowler, but you talk about spin rate etc, but I still have problems kicking out the 10 pin with asymmetrical bowling balls




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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)

Brickguy,

Its been a tough year but now that I am retired I hope to make a comeback.  I had a horrible year.  Couldn't carry a 10 pin and couldn't convert it.  I changed from Lane 1 to Track for most of the season and I think Track is great equipment, I just didn't have the same succes as the bowlers that I bowl with had with Track.

Ever since my house (bowling lanes) closed, I lost the desire to bowl league and practice like I did.  The medical conditions haven't changed, but since they haven't got worse, I can try and live with the pain.

My opinion on asymmetrical bowling balls is thay you have to be more accurate with them rather then symmetrical.  I'm not saying this is a fact, but with the ball being asymmetrical, it seemes to me if you get on the side of it a little too fast, you lose too much potential of the ball.  Release seems to be much more critical then in a symmetrical bowling ball, though I know its still important.
Hope you all had a better year then I did.


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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)

Hi Nicanor,

The symmetrical blocks do tend to roll a little more even then asymmetrical blocks but asyms are much more versatile in drilling to control desired reaction points on the lane.  Symmetrical balls will hook where they want to hook but strong asymmetricals can allow a player to hook sooner or later depending upon ball and conditions.  If you have a good shop guy who can match up your game with a good asymmetrical ball by placing mass bias in it's proper position, you'll see the differences and the hitting power is just as strong if not stronger because it can be laid out to your game and you can control the break point of the ball.
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Rick Leong
Ten Pins Pro Shop
Track Pro Shop Staff
Vise Grip Staff

Thank you Tenpinspro.  I agree with the versatility of asymmetrical bowling balls.  I also agree an asymmetrical ball drilled correctly and in the right hands is an awesome combination if the bowler is consistent with release.  But me, I'm not as accurate as I use too and if I get on the side of an asymmetrical ball a little too much, it just kills the potential of the ball.  The way the weightblock is offset to make it an asymmetrical ball moves the will be a lot more effected by hand position and release then a symmetrical ball.  

I know this is an opinion and I might be out to lunch, but maybe I can get some other feedback.  Shoot, just look at the Violet 3D Offset, that ball alone almost proves my theory is wrong.


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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)

Hi Nicanor and BrickGuy,

Nic, there are certain layouts on asyms that can create a more even roll and not appear as sensitive to release if you're interested.  For what you described as "killing the potential" of the ball, that tells me it's not laid out correctly to suit your game, that's all.

BrickGuy, sorry to hear about the ball driller thing but for everybody to know, most companies are now more helpful in the technical sense then I think they've ever been.  If you don't want to ask here on BR, you can call the manufactures directly and they'll help you lay out a ball to your needs.  Never hurts to ask..hope this helps some.....

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Rick Leong
Ten Pins Pro Shop
Track Pro Shop Staff
Vise Grip Staff

Phatdon,

I miss the Navy and making the adjustment is difficult.  Almost as difficult as picking up the 10 pin

I went to a Track seminar with Mo Pinel and Del Warren and watched all the spin rate garbage.  It might be factual but I don't know how it really figures into carry.  I also went to several Ebonite Hammer seminars and it ws alo very informative.  To talk about pin placement, at the Ebonite seminars not one test ball had the pin besides or above the finger line.  Everything was below.

My favorite ball right now and has been for quite a while is the Super carbide drilled pin 3 3/8 and the cg kicked right a bit. I am also working with the Blueberry again dilled similar and a 3d Offset drilled stacked leverage.  I have a Smasr/R with a 130 drilling.  I was using a Track Unleashed stacked leverage and it is a great ball but I couldn't kick out the 10 pin.  I threw the Inferno for a while but seem to have much more luck with the Raging inferno drilled similar to the Super Carbide.

I'm going up to Nationals 9/10 May so if anyone has any ball recommendations or drilling recommendations for the shot up there I'd appreciate it tremendously.


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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)

Brickguy,

I had no luck with carrying the corners with the Emerald either.  Thought about trying the Uranium but I don't know much about the ball.  I see you like your Uranium.


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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)