Author Topic: Reaction Shape? (Read 784 times)

Jay · « **on:** February 16, 2009, 05:43:46 PM »

I'm interested in whether the people of Ball Reviews prefer a certain reaction on most conditions. What types of reactions work best for you on certain types of conditions?

It's been my understanding that most people prefer skid/snap on house shots and early/smooth on sport shots. But I have a hard time believing that's always the case, specifically with sport shots. Does anyone use equipment that has decent length and more change of direction downlane on tougher conditions?

For the sake of accuracy, skid/snap and early/smooth are just the extremes. So feel free to throw stuff like strong midlane, hard arc, etc in there if that's your favorite.

renoatpikeville · « **Reply #1 on:** February 17, 2009, 01:52:49 AM »

For me, I usually think of reaction to dry, that is, how fast the ball reacts to friction and changes direction.

Most times on sport shots I want the reaction off of the dry to be slower, smoother, and earlier in the lane if possible (usually controlled with surface). Also I try to stay behind the ball to amplify that reaction.

Sport--Read lane early, smooth transition.

Most house shots are a little dryer, so, for me, I like balls to get further down the lane but still exhibit those same qualities that I mention before. (minus the earlier in the lane stuff)

THS--push thru the heads, read friction further down lane, smooth transition

I hope this isn't too convoluted

Jay · « **Reply #2 on:** February 17, 2009, 02:54:48 AM »

Interesting. I think I've just recently discovered that I prefer a more pronounced move, probably a hard arc instead of a true snap, off the friction on the THS. But like you, I need the length to go with it. With more volume or length, I think I like a good midlane read and a nice move on the backend.

I'm not sure for sport shots. Right now I'm struggling on them, probably because I'm trying to force lines that aren't there. I'm finding my equipment too strong for the area of the lane I'm trying to play(somewhere outside 10 at the arrows, since straighter is greater). But I haven't tried my Avalanche yet, which goes the longest I think. Either way, smoother is probably better, but I wouldn't know for me since I haven't found success yet.

dizzyfugu · « **Reply #3 on:** February 17, 2009, 03:14:13 AM »

With my lower ball speed, my most favorite and versatile setup is 4.5x4.5, pin above the fingers and CG/MB stacked, for good length and a stronger back end reaction. Early or rollier setups only work on slick lanes for me, and weaker setups can lack hitting power.
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Jay · « **Reply #4 on:** February 17, 2009, 05:49:05 PM »

renoatpikeville · « **Reply #5 on:** February 18, 2009, 12:43:13 AM »

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I'm not sure for sport shots. Right now I'm struggling on them, probably because I'm trying to force lines that aren't there. I'm finding my equipment too strong for the area of the lane I'm trying to play(somewhere outside 10 at the arrows, since straighter is greater). But I haven't tried my Avalanche yet, which goes the longest I think. Either way, smoother is probably better, but I wouldn't know for me since I haven't found success yet.

What I would do in your position, maybe go to a higher grit on those balls that are too strong for you on sport shots.

I think it would be easier for you to play your preferred line as opposed to changing angles through the front of the lane.

Hypothetically speaking, if you had let's say a V2/Gamebreaker and it's too strong for the line you are playing (up the boards outside of 10) It may be best to change to surface...1000 grit --> 2000 grit or even 4000.

noturcuzin · « **Reply #6 on:** February 18, 2009, 12:52:32 AM »

I've used an Intense Inferno of a heavy oiled sport shot. Good length with decent backend for as long as the pattern was. Not sure of exact length but i'd say somewhere around 42-44ft? I actually shot my highest game of the day with the Intense Inferno.
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Jay · « **Reply #7 on:** February 18, 2009, 01:14:08 AM »

The equipment I've been trying(Counter Strike and Rival) are both at 2000 with lane shine, that's relatively close to 4000 I think. If I play up five I don't usually have over reaction, at that point it's a matter of hitting my mark and getting the ball to get to hook just enough. Weird thing is I figure I could move 1-1 left to get myself in the pocket better but I end up going high. I often find myself swinging from 8-10 to somewhere around 6 if I'm able to. This is on Chameleon just to throw that out there.

Anyways, I didn't mean to imply that I'm not comfortable increasing my angle through the front. I just figured I have my best chance to score outside because I'm not having a problem getting the ball to hook

These balls don't snap off the spot, but the Rival is quite strong out of the pattern. The seems to like making it's move early but not quite as aggressively. I figure that would be my best option but it's my least favorite ball.
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BXTECH · « **Reply #8 on:** February 18, 2009, 04:01:34 AM »

Whether it's a SPORT condition or the THS a smooth hard arcing hit into the pocket is more acceptable (acceptable+ easier to read). I have had very good succes on a THS using a gamebreaker(s) 1

D @ 2k, clean thru fronts w/ a smooth but pronounced arc off thr dry boardsand, 2

U @ 500w/ polish the added length i need but with a slight harder arcing motion. Just recently started getting inot the sport condition shot. The cover prep and the house that i bowl at the gamebreaker isn't giving me the look that i am comfortable playing, so using the track lineup i have a much stronger read in the mids using the kinetic energy & the tantrum to give me added length but retains strong hitting power when the angle isn't carrying.
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rustylegacy · « **Reply #9 on:** February 18, 2009, 09:44:23 AM »

I like skid/flip, or later reading balls with a hard arc. For me there is less to think about. I cant throw a banana arc rolly ball to save my life, it has to have a little more backend move for me to line up good. I have a fairly high track that covers alot of the ball(12"-12.5"), this may be the reason.

mmcfarland300 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 18, 2009, 10:21:21 AM »

Sport Shot more constant arc earlier read.

THS I still like good midlane but still more Arc than flip

pin-chaser · « **Reply #11 on:** February 18, 2009, 10:44:01 AM »

On any condition the more the entry angle the more you can strike (especially on off hits).

On THS there is an emphasis on artifically creating area for the bolwer so a skid snap reaction creates more entry angle and therefor more strikes. Of course the penalty is when the pattern changes and you get behind on adjustments. Such as stone 9's, 4-9's and sudden splits where last frame everything seemed fine. And of course the adjustments made are larger like 5 and 3's.

On Sport patterns the emphasis is less on artificial area and so the premium is to keep the ball in play even if the strike precentage is less. Hense the reason for earlier reaction and arcing layouts. This tends to smooth out the changes and gives bowlers a chance to make adjustments before a bad break. Such as 4 pins and flat 10's. And of course the adjustments made are smaller like 2/3 and 1's.

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