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Title: Morich
Post by: doanekm on June 12, 2010, 10:46:03 AM
Does Brunswick still pour Morich Balls
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Title: Re: Morich
Post by: Gunnz on June 12, 2010, 07:36:42 PM
I believe they might be poured by 900 Global as is Lane 1
Title: Re: Morich
Post by: BowlingBallVault on June 12, 2010, 07:54:45 PM
MoRich is poured by Brunswick.
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Title: Re: Morich
Post by: charlest on June 12, 2010, 08:04:55 PM
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I believe they might be poured by 900 Global as is Lane 1


AFAIK 900Global pours 900 Global, AMF, Lane#1, Caffeine Sports, Elite and Seismic. (edited)

They also used to pour Storm''s lower lines: Tropical Storm and Fast and Furious. Not sure if they still do.
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Edited on 6/13/2010 1:31 AM
Title: Re: Morich
Post by: Jay on June 12, 2010, 10:02:44 PM
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I believe they might be poured by 900 Global as is Lane 1

AFAIK 900Global pours 900 Global, AMF, Lane#1, Caffeine Sports, and Seismic.
(I might have left one out but I can't think of it right now.)
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Elite?  If not I didn't know they poured for anyone else.  I didn't even know about Caffeine Sports.
Title: Re: Morich
Post by: charlest on June 13, 2010, 01:30:34 AM
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I believe they might be poured by 900 Global as is Lane 1

AFAIK 900Global pours 900 Global, AMF, Lane#1, Caffeine Sports, and Seismic.
(I might have left one out but I can't think of it right now.)
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Elite?  If not I didn't know they poured for anyone else.  I didn't even know about Caffeine Sports.


Yes, that's the one I forgot. Thank you.
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Title: Re: Morich
Post by: Russell on June 13, 2010, 08:31:18 AM
I have to ask why anyone throws Mo stuff?  I haven't seen one of those balls roll good in years.  In the modern game you need balls that change direction (to compliment the rolly ones) and Mo has nothing symmetrical or with a tame core.

I'm not trying to be ugly...but really...what is the appeal with them?
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Title: Re: Morich
Post by: don coyote on June 13, 2010, 09:13:48 AM
I LOVE MORICH!!!!!!!!!!!! On some of the balls that aren't Morich, I use morich's different recommended drillings. The one for control is WONDERFUL for burnt heads. don
Title: Re: Morich
Post by: billdozer on June 13, 2010, 09:53:39 AM
I've thrown most of the my buddies morich stuff in the past it was always really rolly and smooth...and not for me at all.  His newer stuff I believe is much better but has silly/terrible names that aren't appealing to anyone.  Cmon weapon of mass bias was genius as was seek and destroy.  He needs a new naming system or something off the wall to attract the consumer and definitely needs his stuff back on the tour.  I kno one person that literally still throws his stuff out of the 20 or so that used to!  If he got it back on the tour he needs a really appealing pro to make that stuff look so good the average bowler has to the feeling that he or she needs to buy one.  that's all my opinion from a business perspective...I really feel morich gained a lot of ground and has lost most of it unfortunately...
Title: Re: Morich
Post by: glssmn2001 on June 13, 2010, 10:07:16 AM
I own the N'Tense and could not be more disappointed. Thought it was supposed to be a heavy oil ball and mine is anything but. I definitely am not going to try anything else from this manufacturer for a while. I am curious how the RipR is going to look
Title: Re: Morich
Post by: Doctor Doom on June 13, 2010, 12:39:39 PM
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I have to ask why anyone throws Mo stuff?  I haven't seen one of those balls roll good in years.  In the modern game you need balls that change direction (to compliment the rolly ones) and Mo has nothing symmetrical or with a tame core.

I'm not trying to be ugly...but really...what is the appeal with them?
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You might want to drop WRW Jr. a line. Ask him what he thinks about MoRich.
Title: Re: Morich
Post by: charlest on June 13, 2010, 12:47:46 PM
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I have to ask why anyone throws Mo stuff?  I haven't seen one of those balls roll good in years.  In the modern game you need balls that change direction (to compliment the rolly ones) and Mo has nothing symmetrical or with a tame core.

I'm not trying to be ugly...but really...what is the appeal with them?
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Russell,

To be perfectly honest, I'm kind of surprised at this reply from you. While I'm no special friend of MoRich balls, I've seen them roll and flip with the best of them.

In the recent  past they've used very strong mass bias ball which required a good deal of expertise to drill properly. But most drillers if they call themselves such should be capable of analyzing a bowler's delivery and drilling them correctly.

The newest MoRich balls, Frenzy, Craze,and Mania, all have relatively weak mass bias becasuse, Mo says, the covers are now much stronger. Whatever. They're much easy to drill now.
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Title: Re: Morich
Post by: BowlinStr8t on June 13, 2010, 01:34:00 PM
I have to agree the 'newer' balls Frenzy, Craze, Mania are A LOT more friendly for the bowler and driller.  These balls will give you a directional change down the lane.  Can't wait to see the new RipR coming out.
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Title: Re: Morich
Post by: kidlost2000 on June 13, 2010, 02:01:19 PM
I have had a lot of luck with many of the Morich balls out there. Ntense, Levrg, Nsane, Levrg response, and Awesome finish.

The only one I didn't have much luck with was the Awesome Revs. The cover was a little to sensitive for me. OOB was a little strong and polish made the ball skid, skid, kinda snap. I didn't spend too much time altering the surface much more to give the ball a fair chance because I had too much stuff anyways and a team mate really liked it so I sold it to him.

I had any reaction I wanted with the ones listed. From roll, to skid snap. It was done with very little change in surface as well.  

Mo is really smart when it comes to bowling balls and their dynamics and I think too many people get lost in all the information given when it comes to these bowling balls and drilling. Use your normal drill patterns like anything else and they roll great. I haven't tried the newer bowling balls like the mania and craze but to me they look to be more versatile and offer a little more skid snap that wasn't as available in some of the previous equipment.
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Title: Re: Morich
Post by: kidlost2000 on June 13, 2010, 02:08:32 PM
Also, I think for smaller companies and most companies in general sponsoring on the PBA tour is a joke.

The amount of money spent isn't worth the return. No one watches the sport on tv anymore. Thus the lack of money on the PBA tour and bowlers leaving the tour. It isn't profitable. You would be better off running commercials for your product on the telecast then sponsoring it. You would get more air time and cost a lot less.

You would get more views with making vids to post on your site and youtube then going the PBA route. Your better off getting the product into proshops hands through local staff and sponsoring college teams then the PBA.

As much as I use to love watching the PBA on tv this past season was really bad. They are desperate for anything, and in turn have very little to offer and it shows in the telecast.
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Title: Re: Morich
Post by: mainzer on June 13, 2010, 10:00:26 PM
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I have to ask why anyone throws Mo stuff?  I haven't seen one of those balls roll good in years.  In the modern game you need balls that change direction (to compliment the rolly ones) and Mo has nothing symmetrical or with a tame core.

I'm not trying to be ugly...but really...what is the appeal with them?
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You must be in the past cause the LevRG line is long gone Russel

check out the Frenzy Craze and Mania all have a new core designed to get down lane and move hard off the spot, all new covers also rumored to be modified versions of the C-System line covers. They are pretty cool and not rolly at all.
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Title: Re: Morich
Post by: kidlost2000 on June 13, 2010, 10:12:12 PM
Levrg response and Nsane levrg are anything but rolly. Added a little polish to the nsane for a very sick skid snap ball. Out of the box is dull similar to an Evil Siege. Polish either and you will see some skid snap/direction change.

Anybody try the Awesome Flip???
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Title: Re: Morich
Post by: Gunnz on June 13, 2010, 10:17:17 PM
I wouldn't mind trying some newer Morich stuff. The only Morich I ever had was the N'sane, drilled it really strong like a 3 1/2x4x1. Threw 800ab+1500polish surface was a great ball, rolled well, awesome backend, then after about 30games the ball literally died. Cleaned it after every use and did surface prep every time before I used it. Tried everything, baking, sweating, resurfacing, nothing seemed to work. It literally went from moving 30 boards to barely moving 5. I'm not trying to bash Morich, maybe I just got a bad ball I don't know, but I wasn't the only one this happened to with this ball, I can name off about ten or 15 people that had the same problem. Then there's my  buddy Dom who has an Awesome Flip with about 300games on it that still hooks like its brand new, so I don't know???
Title: Re: Morich
Post by: mainzer on June 14, 2010, 09:31:49 AM
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I wouldn't mind trying some newer Morich stuff. The only Morich I ever had was the N'sane, drilled it really strong like a 3 1/2x4x1. Threw 800ab+1500polish surface was a great ball, rolled well, awesome backend, then after about 30games the ball literally died. Cleaned it after every use and did surface prep every time before I used it. Tried everything, baking, sweating, resurfacing, nothing seemed to work. It literally went from moving 30 boards to barely moving 5. I'm not trying to bash Morich, maybe I just got a bad ball I don't know, but I wasn't the only one this happened to with this ball, I can name off about ten or 15 people that had the same problem. Then there's my  buddy Dom who has an Awesome Flip with about 300games on it that still hooks like its brand new, so I don't know???


Gunnz I have about 75 games on my Craze and it still hooks like new it hasnt lost a bit
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Title: Re: Morich
Post by: dizzyfugu on June 14, 2010, 10:40:22 AM
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I have to ask why anyone throws Mo stuff?  I haven't seen one of those balls roll good in years.  In the modern game you need balls that change direction (to compliment the rolly ones) and Mo has nothing symmetrical or with a tame core.

I'm not trying to be ugly...but really...what is the appeal with them?
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Morich occupies a small niche with its strong asymmetrical cores. But in the past years, esp. with the LlevRG ball line, I think they lost ground. One reason is that many major manufacturers closed the gap, so the balls lost their USP. And they became over-aggressive - I heard and hear many players complain about the strong LevRG cores being itchy, hard to control or just crap. I mean, the benefit of these cores is that you can tune the ball reaction very well for s pecial pupose and reaction shape. But you need a consistent game to exploit this, and a ball driller who knows how to handle this task (and balls). That's quite demanding, and bears lots of disappointment potential.

I suppose that this lead to a dead end, and the current balls have much more "harmless" core designs - but the brand has become IMO quite generic.

We'll see, but IMHO Morich is not in a good market position these days

But that does NOT mean that the balls are bad!
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