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thewhiz

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Most Agressive Ball
« on: December 31, 2016, 01:13:55 PM »
What is the most aggressive ball out right now?  The one that would handle the most oil?

 

Dave81644

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Re: Most Agressive Ball
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2016, 02:08:14 PM »
Many to pick from
Hammer Scandal
Columbia Tyrant

coming soon - Track Mako
then the king will be the Hammer Gauntlet......
Info coming Jan 5th

CoorZero

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Re: Most Agressive Ball
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2016, 02:25:59 PM »
The Cash (Radical) coming out on the 17th of January is supposed to be the strongest ever to this point. Then there's the Pitbull (DV8) and the Absolute Nirvana (Brunswick) at the top of the lines for the rest of the Big B family.

Motiv has the Jackal Ghost releasing on the 18th of January. Roto Grip has the No Rules, and Storm has the Alpha Crux. I think the top of the current 900 Global and AMF lines are the Inception and Great Escape respectively. Not sure if the Dream Big is still in production otherwise that would be the 900 Global candidate.

Dave listed the EBI family heavy oilers. Not much to add there besides Ebonite's Maverick, although that's more of a downlane monster than a snow tire like the rest of the balls mentioned. They also have the Warrior Supreme though which is nice.

I don't think you would notice a ton of difference between any of them. Just go with whatever brand you're most comfortable with and make sure the drilling and surface compliment the reaction you want to see. Personally I would probably go for the Cash if I needed something like this (I don't, Absolute Nirvana has it covered), but I'm on a bit of a Brunswick high at the moment given the last few balls I've gotten from the Big B family.

Steven

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Re: Most Agressive Ball
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2016, 02:59:19 PM »
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I don't think you would notice a ton of difference between any of them. Just go with whatever brand you're most comfortable with and make sure the drilling and surface compliment the reaction you want to see. Personally I would probably go for the Cash if I needed something like this (I don't, Absolute Nirvana has it covered), but I'm on a bit of a Brunswick high at the moment given the last few balls I've gotten from the Big B family.

 
If you look at the hook ratings of oiler tests over the past 2 years, at least those performed by BJI, the Radical Guru line has been king. Radical's own throwbot comparisons, though labeled as biased by some, show greater hook by their Guru's than others. In my personal experience with the Gurus in PBA competition and sport leagues, the hype is real.
 
Still, I agree the CoorZero that there won't be a ton of difference between the different brands. If you're brand loyal, go with the company you're comfortable with.

leftybowler70

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Re: Most Agressive Ball
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2016, 03:48:08 PM »
Storm Lock, Motiv Jackal Ghost/ LE.

tkkshop

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Re: Most Agressive Ball
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2016, 03:48:50 PM »
You need to look in which covers last the longest. A study shows that after 20 games, the Radical balls shine up quicker (study was done by Radical) than their competition.  This means more surface adjustments to keep your desired reaction. Small things to keep in mind when purchasing oilers.

Dave81644

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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2016, 03:54:26 PM »
Any strong ball in this conversation most likely has a dullish cover.
Any of them will need ball maintenance after every time you use it
Additionally, it may require de-oiling and surface touch up frequently.

If you are a low rev person or higher ball speed and want some help getting ball motion, then these could be for you

Also - ball strength is measured by overall motion, some can be much earlier than others, I know the Columbia Tyrant had strong midlane and downlane motion, it may not look like what you have in mind
Other balls have all the motion downlane

Consumers must want them as all of the brands are making them now....
They get stronger with each release it seems

AlonzoHarris

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Re: Most Agressive Ball
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2016, 06:09:07 PM »
How does no one have a picture or details of this Hammer Gauntlet yet??
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bcw1969

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Re: Most Agressive Ball
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2016, 07:11:06 PM »
Even though it's an older ball, I love my 2 Midnight Scorchers on floods. It is too bad no one else made a ball with a full size core with particle over a straight urethane base....great control up front and no jumpiness in the backend, but I guess most people prefer longer & then stronger.

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Re: Most Agressive Ball
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2016, 08:08:51 PM »
How does no one have a picture or details of this Hammer Gauntlet yet??


AlonzoHarris

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Re: Most Agressive Ball
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2016, 08:19:42 PM »
How does no one have a picture or details of this Hammer Gauntlet yet??



Looks like a Haywire! Lol. I was expecting reds and blacks to be used based on the name.
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Dave81644

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Re: Most Agressive Ball
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2016, 10:15:03 PM »
Think Scandal - like
with asymmetric core

a big hit during ball testing

Steven

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Re: Most Agressive Ball
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2017, 09:33:34 AM »
You need to look in which covers last the longest. A study shows that after 20 games, the Radical balls shine up quicker (study was done by Radical) than their competition.  This means more surface adjustments to keep your desired reaction. Small things to keep in mind when purchasing oilers.
 
 
Interesting. Would you have a link to the study you're referencing?
 
To Dave's initial point, I've never seen an oiler that doesn't shine up to some degree when used on true heavy oil. I used my Guru Supreme for 6 straight games on 47' Chameleon in a Regional recently, and it didn't shine up to any unusual level. Certainly not any more than my Ebonite Pivot or Storm Marvel S would in similar use.
 
Anyway, link please, if available.

don coyote

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Re: Most Agressive Ball
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2017, 09:43:22 AM »
The Hammer Gauntlet has the identical color scheme to my Wicked Encounter. I loved that ball!!!

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Re: Most Agressive Ball
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2017, 09:44:29 AM »
Right now, the most aggressive ball in the Global family is the Inception, but on the AMF side, there's the Great Escape and soon the Night Hawk Stealth. GE is assym, F81 cover, NHS is F78, symmetrical.