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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Shoutout33 on November 23, 2003, 08:59:29 AM
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I know I'm gonna' get a ton of personal opinions with this question, but I really, really need some non-biased replies to this question. Ok, I'm originally planning to get Lane 1 equipment, but I'm trying to look at all of my options.
Ok, which SMALL bowling company do you think offers the most bang for your buck? Now, please remember I'm asking a question and not trying to start any flame wars against any company. Also, I feel and I've been told, that with my style of bowling, I can throw pretty much anything. (Please look at profile)
One reason for me asking is curiosity, but mostly because I don't have the money to try every company that comes out. Yeah, I know about Bowling this Month, and I'm working on that as we speak. So please, I really like some honest, non-biased answers to this question. Thanks in advance.
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When you've moved up, moved back, adjusted left and right, cupped, flattened out, have thrown everyting in your arsenal, and the pins still don't cooperate, just say, "Aw to HELL with it!", and throw the ball!
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I have been around bowling for 20 years. Worked in a bowling center for 12 years. I have thrown balls from all the companies. I would have to say don't pick a ball company. Pick a ball that fits your style. Find a layout you like and try drilling a few the same way and tweek the cover.
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without a doubt the Test membership from visionary is the best deal going.
Balls are top notch and between the Gargoyle,gryphon and executioner lines you can handle all of the conditions.
otherwise the Hammer blade series. outstanding balls for the cost.
next the Roto-Grip silver streak series. nice three ball arsenal.
the monster line from Big B.
now if you want o go from the 150's( drilled) to the 180-200 range. the Diesels or the Vortex line are great equipment.
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Not wanting to start any price war, and not wanting to "compare" companies or balls, but I don't see where Morich is more expensive than the others. As a matter of fact, Bowler's Choice Pro Shop just was selling a combo....Hercules/or Colossus Supreme AND a Pioneer for $259.00 including drilling. That too me is not expensive for 2 quality bowling balls.
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The most bang for your buck would mean, which ball can you win more money with..? =:^D
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Even though I'm on staff with Dyno-thane, I'd still have to recommend the Thing. It's a really nice mid-strong aggressive ball, which is not unique. But the coverstock is worth mentioning. It has the Soacker coverstock, it's actually half solid and half pearlized. The Soaker's main appeal is its longevity. You will be able to throw it, with the same reaction, longer than other coverstocks. So it gets my vote for Bang for the Buck, just because it'll last a while. Which also means even if you decide to sell it, it will still perform "like new" for your buyer.
Tony
http://www.allBowling.com
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To me the best bang for the buck are used balls. Get a ball that you are interested in that is close to your span and close to the drilling you want. Most of all be patient. It gives you a chance to try any ball on the market.
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Visionary balls I believe are truly the best ball for the buck. But I would have to agree with Scooby on this one.
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Although, I too am biased, I don't think there is a line out there that will cover all the shots, and be as reasonably priced as the Blade series from Hammer.
Blade Pearl
Sling Blade
Blade Solid
Blade Particle
Sharp Blade
What more could you ask for.
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Jason Jenkins
"Nothing HITS like a Hammer"
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AZO or Dynothane. I bought a 'Thing' a few months ago, and am astonished by this ball. I have yet to see a ball that carries as well hitting light. A guy in our alley bought a 'Thing' the first week it came out, and has since won thousands of dollars using just it and has averaged nearly 240 since he bought it. Ball still works like it's new yet he hasn't even cleaned it nor resurfaced it.
And ofcourse AZO. Those ball's hit like monsters for the price of small rabbits basically. I bought a Tactics Supercarbon, 119$ shipped straight from AZO, 30$ for drilling, and its definately the second best 149$ i've ever spent.
Someday, I hope to try Visionary and Morich, but for now, those two balls are the only 2 I need.
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The THING!
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Visionary and DT. Bought a Thing and Thing Returns both great balls that should last as Tony says with the Soaker cover stock.
Scott
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How about the following:
Dynothane Barrage: $80-90, drilled.
Dynothane Thing, Thing Returns, Element -- all with soaker coverstock.
OR
Columbia White Dot $40-60 drilled.
Columbia Black Messenger $70-80 drilled.
Columbia Wild $90-100 drilled.
Columbia Jekyll/Hyde $110-120 drilled.
Columbia Wicked/Wicked BRT $120-140 drilled.
Columbia WOW/WOW Pearl $140-150 drilled.
IMHO, the Dynothane Line up, despite it's higher price, is the only one that compares with Columbia's Flipside. Great equipment, great values for both.
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Not really sure why your hooked on the small ball company? The larger companies have balls that very good that don't break the bank. I have seen people bowl very well with the Brunswick Monster line. I am sure the other companies have similar. Not sure how many of these small ball manufacturers are actually manufacturers and not selling private label balls. Even AMF didn't make their own balls. I know Dyno-Thane and Roto-Grip are Storm companies, so why not buy Storm??? I don't think Storm is going to manufactur a better ball under another name, not good for the stock holders. Lane #1 and these others, may very well be good balls, but do they make them??? Might be better off sticking to a company that's well established.
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I know Dyno-Thane and Roto-Grip are Storm companies, so why not buy Storm??? I don't think Storm is going to manufactur a better ball under another name, not good for the stock holders.
I'll politely correct you here. Dyno-thane is NOT a Storm company. Phil Cardinale, if you recall, was the founder/owner of Track, which was sold to Columbia a couple years ago. Phil, not one to stay idle, bought D/T from Storm last year. Storm remained the manufacturer as a condition of the sale.
While Storm does indeed manufacture the equipment, they do not use the same cores/coverstocks. These are designed by Phil and his staff and are very unique. It is not only possible, but with Phil's record it is also likely, that D/T were to come out with a ball superior to Storm.
Although I do not know the deal terms of Rotogrip, other than the balls are designed by Hank and now Del Ballard. Just fyi.... 
Tony
http://www.allBowling.com
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Just got off the phone with Phil. He confirmed that D/T is in fact a unique, separate company. It is worth noting that D/T does use the same resins as Storm (not sure how many there are are), but uses unique resin blends. This means that the equipment to wear the D/T badge are different from anything on the market.
I'll bet Rotogrip has the same liberties with base materials. Just a point of clarification.
Tony
http://www.allBowling.com
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not to sound rude, but how could anyone say a lane #1 ball is good ban for your buck?
anyways
hammer-blade line, track-crunch line,roto-streak line, ebonite-vortex 2 line
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I do not believe that Roto-Grip is a separate company. Last I knew they occupied the same address. Their advertising and parent company logos are also the same ( I work in advertising). As far as resins go, I would imagine every company tweaks them but can't imagine that all in all there are that many.
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bang for the buck . . . hammer deisel or blade series, or visionary equipment.
it's very true that today's bargain balls are yesterday's high performance miracles.
i'm not a fan of used balls . . . you just can't tell, short of a microscope and a chemical analysis, how many games have been played with the ball and thus how many games you'll get out of the equipment.
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Some good replies to this already so here is my input.
I think used balls are a good deal especially for a beginner. They give you an idea of what that company's product line is like for a low price.
That being said, I think that Visionary and DynoThane are offering good products. I just got a RotoGrip but havent gotten it drilled yet but have heard good things about them. Lane #1 so far for me has been hit or miss, I am still evaluating on them.
Some of the major ball companies offer good balls in their mid-price lines and perhaps should not be overlooked, unless you just want to try the smaller companies. I know that Visionary has a good support system. I have spoken to them a couple of times to have some questions answered and even spoke to the president of the company twice. Might not be able to do that with the larger companies
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