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JOE FALCO

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Motiv Girl
« on: November 10, 2014, 12:33:31 PM »
Haven't seen much from this gal in a while .. even though there have been many new Motiv releases .. what's happening?
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Re: Motiv Girl
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2014, 07:31:11 PM »
I remember watching her videos, and one video her specs are at 300 rev rate....if she's 300 I must be 400....I'm at or below or a little more than 300 rpms since moving up in ball weight, and my ball isn't rev'n that slow...

Correct the majority that haven't measured their stats. over estimate two areas ball speed and revs.  I like you xrayjay am 300 and 325 on a very good day.  Angela was very close to 225  and 250 max IMO.  But also why she could play a more direct line cuz she was speed dominant and her ball would check up and also able to use stronger equipment on average.

I any case, I wish her well. 

She put a lot of work on those vids, but it'll be better if stats were accurate. again, props to her for all the work she did for the videos for us joe bowler.....anyway, there are joe bowlers at league who tell me they are 350 to 400 rpms and they barely look like they reach 300....
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Re: Motiv Girl
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2014, 07:43:12 PM »
I remember watching her videos, and one video her specs are at 300 rev rate....if she's 300 I must be 400....I'm at or below or a little more than 300 rpms since moving up in ball weight, and my ball isn't rev'n that slow...

Correct the majority that haven't measured their stats. over estimate two areas ball speed and revs.  I like you xrayjay am 300 and 325 on a very good day.  Angela was very close to 225  and 250 max IMO.  But also why she could play a more direct line cuz she was speed dominant and her ball would check up and also able to use stronger equipment on average.

I any case, I wish her well. 

She put a lot of work on those vids, but it'll be better if stats were accurate. again, props to her for all the work she did for the videos for us joe bowler.....anyway, there are joe bowlers at league who tell me they are 350 to 400 rpms and they barely look like they reach 300....

Her videos must have taken a tremendous amount of time and work; they were very professional looking and commentary was equivalent. However, as a few have commented upon, her rev rate and ball speed did not seem to reflect reality. If she had 250 - 300 rpms, I must have 500 and my measured rate is 275-325 depending. So I found her videos impossible to relate to.
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Re: Motiv Girl
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2014, 08:33:56 PM »
Yea, but the camera adds ten pounds.   ;D
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« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2014, 09:16:13 PM »
Her videos must have taken a tremendous amount of time and work; they were very professional looking and commentary was equivalent. However, as a few have commented upon, her rev rate and ball speed did not seem to reflect reality. If she had 250 - 300 rpms, I must have 500 and my measured rate is 275-325 depending. So I found her videos impossible to relate to.


I was intrigued by this discussion of her rev rate, so i downloaded one of her videos and calculated the revs. I used one of her using the Motiv venom shock because the label was easy to see and count the revs.

I used the frame count and powerhouse rev chart methods and I came up with about 180-200 revs.

Compared to videos of me and my low rev rate that I think is pretty close.
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Re: Motiv Girl
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2014, 09:22:09 PM »
Rev rates are like driver distance. Deduct 20% and you'll get the real number.

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Re: Motiv Girl
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2014, 10:20:29 PM »
I should look up her videos.  My rev rate is about 200.

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Re: Motiv Girl
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2014, 11:46:42 PM »
I agree that her rev rate wasn't as high as advertised, but I think in general watching her and most top women bowlers the average "Joe Bowler" can relate to their games and can get a read on the bowling ball they are throwing. Higher rev or speed guys gain nothing.

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Re: Motiv Girl
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2014, 10:46:06 AM »
I think her 3 revs and 10 mph ball speed were indicative of almost no other bowlers.To me her videos were worthless, but she seemed to be a nice person.

Man Charlest,  that is brutal.  I have never known you to be so harsh.  Not cool.

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Re: Motiv Girl
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2014, 11:01:06 AM »
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I think her 3 revs and 10 mph ball speed were indicative of almost no other bowlers.To me her videos were worthless, but she seemed to be a nice person.

Man Charlest,  that is brutal.  I have never known you to be so harsh.  Not cool.

Sorry, nothing there but brutal honesty. I never understood what anyone saw in her videos. Virtually every ball seemed to hook 4 or 5 boards; playing down and in., no matter how strong or how weak the ball was. That's ridiculous.

I did say they were very well done, I did say the commentary was also very appropriate and well done. I did say she was a nice person. After I said that, being as the videos served no purpose for me and being that she did have anywhere near the 280 rpms she claimed (Lucky to have 200), I think every word of criticism is valid.

I did say ,"TO ME" they were worthless. If they were useful to you, I'm not complaining. They had to have been worthwhile to Motiv or they wouldn't have had her on staff.
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Re: Motiv Girl
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2014, 11:09:17 AM »
I see way more bowlers with her style than with the high speed/high rev stand left throw right staffers that normally make videos. Except, they don't usually repeat shots as consistently as she does.

I bowl in a high level scratch league with a young lady who was a college All American at Fresno State a few years ago with almost exactly the same style. She just kills it over and over(230+ average). She can't play the really deep inside lines, but then again, she doesn't have to get deep inside. Her style works on oil, dry, flat patterns and house shots.
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Re: Motiv Girl
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2014, 11:14:44 AM »
Angela is a very nice woman and very accomplished bowler.  Who cares what her rev rate is???   Have chatted with her on FB more than once and looking at her pictures; she does a lot for the sport up in that region.  I personally do not know who adds the stats to the videos.  But I am not concerned about it. Maybe one day I will be lucky enough to meet her in person and have the opportunity to bowl along side her.
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Re: Motiv Girl
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2014, 11:35:00 AM »
I met Angela in Kentucky when we were taking our USBC Silver class with Coach Rod Ross and Stephen Padilla. She's a very dedicated person when it comes to bowling and helping as many people as possible. She's also as stated a very sweet person and caring person! I don't have a very high rev rate either, in the 275 range per Kegel when I was there for a few days. I mainly used her video for the shape of her shot and she can repeat shots and not spray them all over the place. Where it helps me the most is I coach a local girls high school bowling team and the girls don't have a very high rev rate and it gives me ideas for them. Plus, Motiv was nice enough to give our high school a special deal on bowling balls. We bought about 30 from them and kudos to them and Jamie Ireland. Jeff I understood what you were saying and I say the same thing when I watch videos of the 400+ rev rate bowlers and the two handed videos. They don't help me a bit because I can't relate to them! lol Just my $.02, Bruce
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Re: Motiv Girl
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2014, 02:13:01 PM »
So I went and look up a few of her videos.  This is nothing against her personally.  I'm sure she has a great personality. 

If you guys consider those videos "repeating shots" you need to up your standards.

She is the perfect example of what is wrong with the whole bowling industry.  She has been on at least 2 different ball staffs.  Sorry boys, she just ain't that good.

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Re: Motiv Girl
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2014, 02:50:45 PM »
I just looked her up on USBC.com, she looks pretty decent there. Her last recorded PBA league average was 183 even. Not to mention 11 300s and 4 800s. Most of these come from Thunderbowl in Detroit.


She's at least a better than average bowler.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2014, 02:53:59 PM by milorafferty »
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Re: Motiv Girl
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2014, 01:46:48 AM »
I wonder how many people running her down could beat her head to head on a variety of shots? I'm thinking, not as many as those dissing her would think!