I posted this in another bowling forum and didn't really learn anything, so thought I would try here on BR....

Has anyone other than Motiv staff members thrown this new ball yet? I would like to know how it works for the "everyday Joe" type bowlers and not Motiv staff Bowelrs, bowling on THS.

State your stats so we know how you compare to staffers.

  ... uh, I think I can already tell you how I campare to the staffers, but will leave it be as is ...     

Brick, I had the chance to try one on the Mtiv test drive and I really liked the ball. It was tested on a fresh lane, THS. It goes clean through the heads, goes a little bit farther down the lane than my Shock (I took it to the test drive to compare) and it has a nice pop in the backend, I think it is just a little bit stronger than my Shock, but maybe it was just me. When I was missing my mark and going to far to the left and hitting the dry (I am a left handed) I had some difficulties getting the ball to the pocket, but still had some margin of error, but I would say that everytime I hit my mark on missed by one or two boards the ball looked impressive! Not a skid reaction (thankfully, because I don't like skid reaction, hockey stick, etc) but still goes down the lane and stores energy for the backend. I think the ball will be more useful for a second or a third game and not as a first ball, but still I was able to use it on the fresh. I really liked the ball, but ended getting a Forza instead. (I was needing more of a ball like the Forza than the Panic, but I will get that one eventually) by the way I am a left handed everyday Joe, 16.26 mph, 200 revs, etc...

I hope this helps!

I loved the Motiv demo day, but with my low axis tilt  and the pin above bridge, I would burn off the tilt and they would roll out on me.

So I didn't get a good look for me, but I do love their products when I buy and get one drilled up for my specs. Got the Forza and Apex on demo day and they are looking good.

I punched up one of these last week.  This ball is far stronger than I had anticipated.  I drilled it with the pin over my middle finger and the cg just above my center of grip on the center line.  The ball clears the heads easily, but you can definitely see when it picks up its roll.  Once it turns, it makes a very strong move to the pocket with great continuation.   

I've had mine for two of weeks.  I'm super impressed, but it is stronger than I anticipated.  Clears the heads easily, makes a hard move, and REALLY continues through the deck.  It lets me play on the same line as my Schizo when the track is burned up, but my carry percentage seems higher with the Panic.  I'm never going to overpower a lane, so I don't tend to struggle with polished equipment being too jumpy.  Your results may vary, but given the way this fits in my lineup I'll probably ditch the Schizo for a Forza or something that'll read earlier/smoother.  That'll give me better "gaps."