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Mushtare Rules
« on: June 16, 2006, 02:27:02 PM »
Headlines on the local news confirms 2 900's for the wonder boy. History is made,let the games begin!!!!
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Re: Mushtare Rules
« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2006, 04:44:24 PM »
Good catch...!

He's better than most of us!  By the way....I looked at the video and remembered this definite impression from Junior Gold.  When warming up ...he looked similar to video...like he was warming up(like a lot of us look).  By the time he was done warming up he looked more and more solid at the line!

By the end of the set I saw...he was really nailing his finish...just didn't have a clue what ball...and where to stand for the condition and his game!  Sort of like the rest of us...as we get warmed up...we look better!

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« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2006, 05:54:06 PM »
I wasn't telling YOU!  I was telling the fellow who commented on his TV tape where he was not nailing the finish.

Your mind is MADE up...like many people on this issue.  Don't even worry about it!  Until he shoots 3 800s out of 5 in front you you won't believe it!
I understand where people are coming from.  One either believes it...or doesn't!  Accepted.  If your interested in the guys game...these posts may interest you...if they don't...I understand where you are coming from!

To me...I'm hoping he has more success in the future.  But frankly I'm a fan of every guy I have seen or know who has thrown an 840 or 850 plus.  To ME...they are all great and great to watch(never seen a bad one!)  Wish I could round my game back in to shape and then add another gear to have a chance at threatening one of those big numbers!  It looks like FUN!  It was what I played golf for AFTER I decided I wasn't gonna be Jack Nicklaus or make a fantastic living from the game!  I loved it!
And I love watching bowlers go for it too!  High scoring I think is really a trip!

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Re: Mushtare Rules
« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2006, 08:47:42 PM »
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I wasn't telling YOU!  I was telling the fellow who commented on his TV tape where he was not nailing the finish.

Your mind is MADE up...like many people on this issue.  Don't even worry about it!  Until he shoots 3 800s out of 5 in front you you won't believe it!
I understand where people are coming from.  One either believes it...or doesn't!  Accepted.  If your interested in the guys game...these posts may interest you...if they don't...I understand where you are coming from!

To me...I'm hoping he has more success in the future.  But frankly I'm a fan of every guy I have seen or know who has thrown an 840 or 850 plus.  To ME...they are all great and great to watch(never seen a bad one!)  Wish I could round my game back in to shape and then add another gear to have a chance at threatening one of those big numbers!  It looks like FUN!  It was what I played golf for AFTER I decided I wasn't gonna be Jack Nicklaus or make a fantastic living from the game!  I loved it!
And I love watching bowlers go for it too!  High scoring I think is really a trip!

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Brandon, there is not enough alcohol on the planet to make Lefty make sense. I have come to realize that a long time ago. Better watch you say though, or he'll claim that you are me too. And he'll start attacking you since he can't answer any of the questions posed to him.

Lefty, so now we have 2 out of what 10-15 people who watched him at Junior Gold that say he has a good game. You say he threw the wrong ball, but they say he couldn't hit the same mark twice. That has nothing to do with the ball. He couldn't make the 3-6-10 to save his life, not the ball. He is not that good. The more people watch him, the more they say how bad he really is. Yet you refuse to accept it, why? And now he is not bowling in college. Why? Because he knows he will embarrass himself. You claim part of the reason he bowled so bad at Junior Gold is he hasn't bowled on tough shots. Well there is a chance for to bowl on tough shots, he could bowl for his college team. The more I read about him the more of a joke he becomes, and the more of joke you become when you post things like before. Not that you had far to go in the first place.
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« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2006, 07:58:32 AM »
Jorge...

You've never chopped spares on a sports condition?...congratulations...you are the first person not to suffer from that.

YOu have been rebuked by the best on this site(even those who agree with you)!  Over and over and it never deters you!  I really think you should use your special never hold back talents on the USBC.  Maybe they would get sick of you and just give up...you ARE that type of guy!

Sandbagging Uncool...Easy...I like high scoring...I think all bowlers with many 800s and a couple in the over 830 range are great to watch!  I wish him success!  EASY!

Again...as Tim Mack said..."IF he really did what he says he did...bowling should embrace him and his story".  The USBC did!  I believe it...you don't...EASY!

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Re: Mushtare Rules
« Reply #50 on: October 03, 2006, 11:47:03 AM »
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You've never chopped spares on a sports condition?...congratulations...you are the first person not to suffer from that.

YOu have been rebuked by the best on this site(even those who agree with you)!  Over and over and it never deters you!  I really think you should use your special never hold back talents on the USBC.  Maybe they would get sick of you and just give up...you ARE that type of guy!

Sandbagging Uncool...Easy...I like high scoring...I think all bowlers with many 800s and a couple in the over 830 range are great to watch!  I wish him success!  EASY!

Again...as Tim Mack said..."IF he really did what he says he did...bowling should embrace him and his story".  The USBC did!  I believe it...you don't...EASY!

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Chopping a spare isn't the issue, once you chop it once, most good bowlers make an adjustment. He chopped the same spare the same way 3 times. That is not good bowling. Period. If he wants to prove he is what he says he is, then why not bowl at college? By the time he graduates, he would have 4 years bowling on tougher conditions, yet he refuses, because his Dad say he doesn't have anything to prove?!? I think his performance at Juinor Gold shows he has a lot to prove.

And the USBC only said that the couldn't find any evidence that this wasn't bowled. That is much different then saying we have found evidence that this WAS bowled. Please tell me another sport, where it's most sacred record is given to an individual without concrete proof that it occurred? I can help you, there is none, not one, nada, zip, zilch.

Again instead of answering questions, you have to disrespect me. I would have expected nothing less from you Lefty.
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Re: Mushtare Rules
« Reply #51 on: October 03, 2006, 12:16:53 PM »
Hey Guys,

At least "He" got the rule changed so no one else can get a honor score during pre-bowling anymore. Infamously know as the "Mustare Rule".
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« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2006, 09:42:24 AM »
Jorge...disrespecting you is easy...You earn it every time!  

REgarding the USBC...throw your considerable testosterone, stridency, and emotion at them....I swear..they will weigh the factors and after you go on and on and on and on and on and on and...... they will throw out the scores....face the Mushtare lawsuit and probably pay you....to go away!  Maybe they will pay you some sort of reparations for your anguish over their process!

Did you ever rent from me?

I have no idea what is going on regarding Robert Mushtare's college bowling...

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« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2006, 09:53:50 AM »
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Jorge...disrespecting you is easy...You earn it every time!  

REgarding the USBC...throw your considerable testosterone, stridency, and emotion at them....I swear..they will weigh the factors and after you go on and on and on and on and on and on and...... they will throw out the scores....face the Mushtare lawsuit and probably pay you....to go away!  Maybe they will pay you some sort of reparations for your anguish over their process!

Did you ever rent from me?

I have no idea what is going on regarding Robert Mushtare's college bowling...

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It is a true mark of our society today, that you take pride in disrespecting someone else, Lefty. You are a perfect exampe of what's wrong with us as a culture. I am glad everyone gets to see this and what kind a man, no that's not right, boy you really are. Maybe someday when you grow up, you will learn to respect your fellow man, but somehow I doubt it.

I am also glad you stated something I have known for quite a long time, You have no idea..period, is what that sentence should have read, cause you never have any ideas, about anything.

I did notice since I busted you, you haven't moved any of your own posts back to the top, I guess the change in medication is working.
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Re: Mushtare Rules
« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2006, 04:04:19 PM »
I also was at Junior Gold on his squad.  The 1st day I was about 3 pair off to the right of Robert.  From what I saw, he's not horrible.  He struggled.  We all did.  But from his form, He might have been real lucky and bowled one of those 900's.  I can't believe he did them all.  He looked like a 200-210 average bowler.  

The TV Crews were following him and Steven Black also.  Steven was on the ESPN Telecast with Robert.  The camera's didn't bother Steven at all.  I saw Steven have the last 8 or 9 strikes in a row with the camera's on him.  I thought for a minute he had a 300 game the way the scorers looked.  I know Robert finished out of the cut and Steven made the top 16 overall.  

Some of Steven's accomplishments are on www.juniorbowlerstour.com.  Also look on Bowl.com's records for Juniors and you'll see Steven's name for almost every category. 300 games, 800 series, 298 games, 299 games. But, no 900 for Steven though.  IF I didn't know who was who at Junior Gold, I would have believed Steven was the one who shot the 3- 900 series.  Not Robert!!

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« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2006, 07:30:18 PM »
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Jr is right.  I was there too.  He didn't look like he could bowl those 900's.  Maybe one, but never 3.


I don't think he shott 3 900's either... but have you EVER seen a person bowl a 900?  If not, your opinion of his skill level and making that sort of comparison isn't valid.
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« Reply #56 on: October 10, 2006, 07:33:56 PM »
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Jr is right.  I was there too.  He didn't look like he could bowl those 900's.  Maybe one, but never 3.


I don't think he shott 3 900's either... but have you EVER seen a person bowl a 900?  If not, your opinion of his skill level and making that sort of comparison isn't valid.



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« Reply #57 on: October 10, 2006, 07:38:57 PM »
Yeah...what is the difference in how a guy looks who has shot 1 900.

And a guy who has shot 3 900s?

What does the difference look like?  What is the differencee between a guy who has 1 850 and another guy who has an 879!

Clue me in too?

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« Reply #58 on: October 10, 2006, 08:06:24 PM »
I've seen him in person...he throws the ball just like all the other guys I have seen who have 850 plus sets.

I can't tell what the next step looks like for a guy who throws 900!

As to Tim Mack...I have not heard that but I will not deny that it is true that he has said that!

As far as I'm concerned there are few guys who can throw 900 and few guys who can throw 850.  But I've seen a handful!  They are all pretty good in my eyes.  I believe they are basically the same guy!  If a guy can shoot 850 he probably can shoot 900 in my mind!

Had an acquaintance who once went 9 straight games in several leagues I watched...every game started with the front 9.  In each 10th he threw some sort of muff!  I believed he could of shot 900 in all 3 of the sets I saw....he just wasn't mentally ready.   Regular league too!  Harder than prebowling(maybe whey he didn't get there(extra pressure compared to prebowl).  A little less strike power than Robert Mushtare but a very accurate ball!  He has MANY 300s and 800s!

I'll be honest with you....Any guy who I've seen who has shot 850...I believe with breaks they could have all shot 900s.  

If Steven Black told me he had two 900s and the score sheet backed him up...I'd believe it!
If Pete Weber told me he had two 900s and the score sheet backed him up...I'd believe him.
If the guy above told me he prebowled two 900s I'd believe him...heck he almost had 3 in consecutive sets in real league and I think we all know prebowling would be a little easier mentally.

HEy...I'm against prebowling...but it was the rules at the time!

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« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2006, 11:01:42 AM »
1198 was shot in regular league.

Remember all 850s are 34 of 36 ....and 86X are 35 of 36.

One more pin fell....AND in prebowling...and maybe easier lane conditions.
Better is not the issue...and DOESN't have to be the case...All 850 shooters throw the HELL out of it at least the ones I've seen!



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« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2006, 12:01:02 PM »
Joe...eliminate your pain...don't read it!

If it says Mushtare on it...your not interested...withhold..your click.

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