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Title: my bowling videos
Post by: jewls on May 09, 2004, 05:35:02 AM
I'm not sure if it will work or not, but it should, so here goes...

http://www.geocities.com/bowler_gurl300/bowling/index.html

Any and all advice you may have is appreciated...
Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: jewls on May 09, 2004, 08:49:35 PM
I had a feeling that would happen... Geocities has a very small transfer limit
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Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: T Brockette on May 09, 2004, 10:15:00 PM
Not working at about 9:15 Central.
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Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: th3jumpoff on May 09, 2004, 11:43:24 PM
still not working ...
Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: WSUstroker on May 10, 2004, 09:31:35 AM
and its down at 8:27 cst
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Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: jewls on May 10, 2004, 07:15:42 PM
Alright, I tried we-todd-did-racing.com... try these ones

Video 01 - http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMzg4MjIzNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D

Video 02 - http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMzg4MjI0NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D

Video 03 - http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMzg4MjI1NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D
Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: th3jumpoff on May 10, 2004, 09:24:41 PM
hey jewls what camera is that, from watching video one i think u need some more knee bend ;o

Edited on 5/10/2004 9:17 PM
Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: lilmike2782 on May 10, 2004, 09:40:14 PM
hey jewls just my opinion, you need to bend your knees more and get your hand underneath the ball through your whole delivery so you come around the ball instead of up-th-back.

good luck and good scores.

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Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: jewls on May 10, 2004, 09:43:20 PM
thanks for the advice... everyone tells me I need more knee bend. I try it and it works for like three or four shots, but I eventually end up returning back to the way it was before.
Suggestions on how I can work on that better?

PS That was a Canon Powershot A30 digital camera
Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: lilmike2782 on May 10, 2004, 09:48:18 PM
start with you knees bent more and creep your way down the lane.  or what patrick healey jr. does is bring the ball down lower and drop your right shoulder a little, that way your already down low and level.
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Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: Doc Hollywood on May 10, 2004, 10:22:55 PM
Jewls - My observations are this.  The knee bend is what everyone else sees and one way to better this is to hold your position at the finish until the ball finishes through the pins.  You may also want to feed the ball more parallel to the lane instead of the rapid decent. Think of sending the ball under a bar that is resting on a chair.  See Ron Clifton's site for this.

I also see in clip one that you come around the ball a little early and this kills your leverage and rev rate possibilities.  This causes you to release the ball a little further away from your ankle and have a slight chicken wing.  If you look closely after your release your hand crosses to the inside of your line though your finish position of your arm is decent.

I bet if you work on staying down a little longer you will build this strength in your legs and working on staying behind the ball and staying closer to the ankle you will begin to throw a much more powerful ball.

You look pretty good much better than I am.  I am just an Elixir Salesman.
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Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: jewls on May 10, 2004, 10:34:31 PM
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also, you are drifting really far left during your approach.


I already knew that too... I do work on that often, but I think that is not AS important as some of the other things wrong in my approach and armswing.

 
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You look pretty good much better than I am. I am just an Elixir Salesman.


I highly doubt that!
Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: Doc Hollywood on May 10, 2004, 10:39:20 PM
Jewls - I hope those observations help.  I like so many other bowlers on this site are always looking to improve.  I learned many bad habits growing up and never really had any coaching.  You appear to have some pretty good basics.  If you are willing to work hard you should refine your technique soon.  

Like I said I am an Elixir Salesman among other things.  They say those who can't do teach and well I do that pretty well.

Good luck and when you improve shoot another video.

If you any further question feel free to message me.


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Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: Jeffrevs on May 11, 2004, 07:33:16 AM
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Number one problem - your pushaway. You hold the ball a bit too far right in your stance, but when you push it away, you push it REALLY too far to the right. The ball goes too far out to the right, then it has no choice but to go behind your back in your backswing.


Yes,..that is what I saw too,....I see pushaways A LOT know that I've had lessons !
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Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: Rock77 on May 11, 2004, 06:53:54 PM
In my observation, it looks as though you start with your arm "cocked" to the outer part of your body. Almost as if you are letting the weight of the ball rotate the wrist outward and causing your arm to be like that. Try to keep your arm straight in your setup and that will help your armswing. In turn that should also help you come out of the ball cleaner and get more consistent with your shot. Hope this helps.
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Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: jewls on May 11, 2004, 08:47:36 PM
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Number one problem - your pushaway. You hold the ball a bit too far right in your stance, but when you push it away, you push it REALLY too far to the right. The ball goes too far out to the right, then it has no choice but to go behind your back in your backswing.


I have had a lot of work done for this... my uncle was helping me. He actually put my arm out to the right like that so that I wouldn't pull it out and around my body... I guess the problem hasn't really improved at all...

One other thing I noticed that no one has said yet is that I seem to be following through in front of my body... has anyone else noticed this??? And if you do, how can I fix it?
Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: the big hit on May 11, 2004, 09:24:40 PM
as the others have said flex your knees at the start, but instead of holding the wrist of your right hand with your left place the ball in your left hand, the left hand should take 70% of the balls weight to relax your right arm. the push the ball off at the same time as you normally do but use your left hand and just let your right arm free swing, and just at the foul line bend into the shot and stretch yourself out to lower your centre of gravity for balance
Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: Doc Hollywood on May 12, 2004, 10:33:34 AM
Jewls -
 
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One other thing I noticed that no one has said yet is that I seem to be following through in front of my body... has anyone else noticed this??? And if you do, how can I fix it?
 


I did shed a little light about this earlier in that you are coming around the bal a little early and that causes a slight chicken wing and forces your hand to follow though in front of your body.  On your set up keep your forearm parallel to your target line and on the down swing before your release try and keep your elbow in toward the body this will help you push the ball down the lane toward the target.  It will also create more leverage by staying behind the ball longer.  Then as you get to the leverage position let the thumb release and then let the fingers come around teh side of the ball more.

message me if you need more help

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Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: seadrive on May 12, 2004, 03:16:10 PM
I couldn't view videos 2 and 3, but #1 is defective.  You didn't get a strike.

Seriously, congrats on being the first person to ever post of video of a shot that left pins on the deck.

Your swing needs a lot of work.  Find a good coach.
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Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: jewls on May 12, 2004, 04:50:14 PM
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instead of holding the wrist of your right hand with your left place the ball in your left hand


I used to do that, but I ended up getting in a lot of trouble for it. "The left hand pushes the ball away(which I did anyway), hold it underneath," etc., etc.
 
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Your swing needs a lot of work. Find a good coach.


Thanks, I guess.... Where do you suggest I look? I'm in southern Ontario, Canada, if that helps...
Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: jewls on May 13, 2004, 11:28:02 PM
ttt... anyone else have any comments/suggestions?
Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: pin-chaser on May 14, 2004, 12:05:10 PM
Jewls,
 
  IMHO, your last step and finish position is lacking. Some things are forgiving for all bowlers, feet work, armswing flare, pushaway and even hand/wrist positions, but what separates the Big Dogs happens in the last step and finish position. Like everyone else, I think more attention to steup, position of ball in stance, pushaway directly inline with target line would help tremdously at becomming more consistant. However, to take your game to the next level you need to develop a much better last step and finish position.

  After watching your videos several times, I dont necessarily agree with the need for more knee bend although I do agree you are too errect in your finish position. I see your back being straight whereby it should be leaning forward. Your chin should be above the balls of your slide foot when releasing the ball. And clearly in video 3 it is behind the foot because you have your shoulders being bup and back. Obtaining this position will increase your ball speed, increase your rev rate and provide a more stable platform for devliering the bowling ball. (This will make the bowling ball seem lighter to you as well).  Additionally, you tend to lean to the left during the release and in video 1 acutally fall off balance in that direction. This again is caused by not being in a good finish position with the shoulders squarely over your feet.

   There are some good articles by Bick Ritger at my site that explains this in much more clear fashion. But the jist here is, develop that last step and finish position to become more solid at the line and your power, accuracy and delivery will get much much better.
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Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: ashzero on May 14, 2004, 12:10:27 PM
hmmm...slower steps definitely...
Title: Re: my bowling videos
Post by: seadrive on May 15, 2004, 01:05:40 PM
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There are some good articles by Bick Ritger...

Dick's older brother, perhaps?

jewls, I searched bowl.com for coaches in Ontario, but they don't have any listed in their database.  Ask around at the local pro shop, and among the better bowlers in your area.  You're not going to fix everything by yourself, and you'll make progress far more rapidly with good coaching now, rather than later.
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